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Live Thread: Romney to Speak to Press Tonight About '47% Video' Comments
Monday, September 17, 2012 | Kristinn

Posted on 09/17/2012 7:09:29 PM PDT by kristinn

Political reporters on Twitter are saying they are standing by for a Romney media availability on the video released today by Mother Jones of Romney at a May fundraiser speaking frankly of his thoughts on Obama's base voters and their entitlement mentality, aka the 47% who pay no federal income taxes.

The media and GOP-E have jumped ugly on Romney tonight.

Steve Holland, Reuters: Romney at press avail to respond to video says his comments weren't "elegantly stated," and "could have said it in a more effective way."


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 47percent; campaignsuicide; enemedia; motherjones; obama; outoftouch; romney; romney4obama; romneycampaign; toast
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To: kevao
People wonder how come Obama can have such high support in the worst economy since the 1930s, how so many people can vote for politicians who promise even more and bigger spending programs although we're already broke? This is why. When almost half the people have no skin in the game, higher taxes, higher spending, higher deficits mean *nothing* to them.

I've come to the point where I believe *everyone*, even the poor, should have to pay some federal income tax, even if it is just a token amount. But an amount high enough so that when politicians promise more spending, then everyone, including the poor, will be forced to ask, What will this cost me?


Absolutely. Paying a 'fair share' as the libs love to throw around - means everyone pays something. But the 47% aren't thinking (duh!) - when we become Greece, there will be nothing left for the freeloaders. Their best interest comes from voting for Romney actually.
381 posted on 09/17/2012 10:37:26 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: upchuck
I get so pissed when Soc Sec is lumped in with all the pure handouts and referred to as an "entitlement."

People are certainly forced to pay into it. But since it is so highly socialized, the upper tier will never get all their money back while the lower ones get all theirs back and much more. So, I'd call SS an entitlement for the low wage earners. An entitlement (my def) is anything someone has not earned or worked for to earn it all.
382 posted on 09/17/2012 10:41:17 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: freepertoo
cripplecreek is a cry baby...

she is one of those who jumpeed on the FREE REPUBLIC to hate Romney, and never was a Romney supporter going to be allow to support him at this site..but the owner changed his mind after all the Primaries and MITT became #1...

guess who supports those four annual fundraiser here??? yep bet they are ROMNEY~~RYAN supporters...

so I now let a few weep in their milk

383 posted on 09/17/2012 10:43:39 PM PDT by haircutter (.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
if Romney loses based on what he said in this video this country is too far gone to be saved anyway..Romney told the truth it’s about damn time he spoke out about this..he should repeat this message over and over again

I didn't see his response - I hope he was unapologetic and reinforced what he said and why it is detrimental to the country. He's been on a streak of stating the truth and standing behind it (Mid East) and he better keep it up. Unlike the McAmnesty campaign and its inevitable outcome.
384 posted on 09/17/2012 10:47:47 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: Zeneta
This could be a defining moment and we will have to see how it plays out.

Mitt has a golden opportunity with something that was designed to hurt him. The ball is in his hands.


I didn't see his response - but I hope he did exactly as you said.

Not only was he 147% correct, it would be wonderful to see the libs squirm b/c they handed him a winning topic.
385 posted on 09/17/2012 10:49:55 PM PDT by yorkiemom (Yorkie Moms 4 Ryan)
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To: Zeneta; EternalVigilance

Ask him how many times Hoefling has been married, and where he works.


386 posted on 09/17/2012 10:54:53 PM PDT by Chunga (Ron Paul is a fruitcakey jackass.)
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To: Mr Rogers

So are those low wage employees who don’t make enough to pay fed taxes, part of what he considered the freeloading 47%?


387 posted on 09/17/2012 11:02:06 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: gotribe

Actually, yes. Your 84year old mother should.

In my opinion, EVERYONE should be paying taxes to some extent.

The problem we have today is only 53% pay for 100%. The 47% not paying anything have no idea how much stuff costs and keep thinking stuff is FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

It’s not FREE. Everyone should have some skin in the game and I mean EVERYONE. In the case of your mother, I would say she should have to pay $500 total. Very small number, but symbolic enough that she and everyone else understands that this stuff costs money. It may not seem fair, but this is a simple numbers game.

Right now we’re down to 16 employed American for every one receiving disability. Years ago that number was 65. We cannot have a society in which the few are paying for all. It will implode on itself. I realize $500 of $17,000 is a lot to some (2.9%), but it is important that people (especially those not paying) understand how much waste there is and how much stuff costs.

If a person pays for something and sees the waste, they get mad. If a person isn’t paying for something, the waste is ignored as someone else’s problem.


388 posted on 09/17/2012 11:02:50 PM PDT by muwarriors92
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To: kevao

Exactly Kevao. It’s been a big issue with me as well. You are exactly right that back in the day it was about 33% to 35% paid something in income taxes. Now 47% to 48% pay nothing. We are enticing a dependency society and the tipping point is very close.


389 posted on 09/17/2012 11:03:01 PM PDT by muwarriors92
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To: yorkiemom

Thanks for your reply.

It seems to me that unless Mitt has become a tool for those advising him, he OWNS this message.

As someone that has been in the financial services industry for over 25 years, I know how to communicate a message or concept. Mitt knows this, since it should be in his nature.

Speak clearly, directly on topic and with succinctness.

It’s not rocket science.

If he is advised to water down this position, he is toast.

K.I.S.S.


390 posted on 09/17/2012 11:06:56 PM PDT by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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To: dragnet2

“47% is a lot of people, and I’d bet at least half of those simply do not make enough working to pay fed taxes.”

“Income taxes” is a bit of a deceptive term. Everybody who makes an income in America pays federal taxes-—in the form of payroll taxes. Payroll taxes start on the first dollar earned. There is no exemption until you get above the maximum earnings level of about $120,000, and it is a flat rate of about 15.3% (if an employee, 50% is given directly to the government by your employer). Over 40% of federal taxes on income come from payroll taxes. Most Americans pay more in payroll taxes than income taxes.

And anyone who imagines that those payroll taxes are being segregated so that they only go for Social Security and Medicare is living in LaLa land. They are used to pay the government’s bills just like any other tax money.


391 posted on 09/17/2012 11:15:32 PM PDT by juno67 (Gua)
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To: juno67
And anyone who imagines that those payroll taxes are being segregated so that they only go for Social Security and Medicare is living in LaLa land.

You mean......there is no........Lock..Box...?

392 posted on 09/17/2012 11:19:04 PM PDT by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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To: muwarriors92; gotribe
Actually, yes. Your 84year old mother should. In my opinion, EVERYONE should be paying taxes to some extent.

Everyone does pay taxes to some extent.

You seem to be suggesting more taxes need to be paid to a wasteful, reckless spending corrupt government.

Those on the lower end incomes or fixed incomes are being squeezed to death, with skyrocketing food, gas and increase of nearly everything going up except their incomes. The government knows this, and why their going after the wealthy, who can obviously survive the hit as opposed to those who can't even afford to fill their gas tanks.

Would it not make more sense to dramatically reduce the size of government and radically cut government spending, cutting government programs at all levels, giving even the wealthy a break?

393 posted on 09/17/2012 11:19:35 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: muwarriors92

YOUR POST will royally PI$$ a lot of long time FR poster off..

and you can start with me...

THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THIS GOVERNMENT WASTES..and you want an 84 year old woman to return at least $300.00 annually..

YOUR NUTS..AND YOUR POST DATE HERE MAKES YOU A LIBERAL TROLL...

I could tell you to go and _ _ _ _ yourself but Clint Eastwood could say it better than me


394 posted on 09/17/2012 11:25:17 PM PDT by haircutter (.)
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To: dragnet2

I think the idea that EVERYONE should have some SKIN in the game is correct.

The game is our gov’t and their spending.

Here’s a horror story coming to a country under your feet.

Q. Who are the top 3 EMPLOYERS in the world ?

Answer:
1. The India railroad
2. The Chinese Red army
3. The UK Health Services

Where do you think the US will fall ?


395 posted on 09/17/2012 11:28:33 PM PDT by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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To: dragnet2

“Would it not make more sense to dramatically reduce the size of government and radically cut government spending, cutting government programs at all levels, giving even the wealthy a break?”

Absolutel. And this time let’s not make our usual mistake of putting the cart before the horse and giving ourselves a tax break before we cut spending.


396 posted on 09/17/2012 11:43:15 PM PDT by juno67 (Gua)
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To: Christie at the beach; All
He got into trouble for saying something like this in the GOP Primary. Did he learn nothing about the press then?

Of all the stupidity! Is he really trying to lose this election? He needs to stop getting pulled off message by his own actions!


397 posted on 09/17/2012 11:46:21 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 50 days away.)
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To: chessplayer

If Carter had this kind of media support, he would have clobbered Reagan in 1980.


My vote for post of the day.

Sadly.


398 posted on 09/17/2012 11:51:06 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: juno67

Number One:

Abolish the Dept. of Education

This should be left to the States.

Number Two:

The EPA should be cut in half at a minimum, again, back to the states.

Number Three:

Dept. of Labor should be abolished.

Number four:

Dept. of Health should be cut in half.

There is so much more.

Adopt a “fair tax” or “flat tax” and cut the IRS to the bone.


399 posted on 09/17/2012 11:54:59 PM PDT by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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To: Zeneta
I think the idea that EVERYONE should have some SKIN in the game is correct.

Everyone does pay taxes. I think the real problem here is, government knows damn well those who've had their hours slashed, lost jobs, eliminated benefits, and there are millions of them, while the cost of everything skyrockets, are being economically gang raped. Millions don't even have jobs...It's one of the reasons why the rich are the big targets now.

Are we going to raise taxes on some guy making 280 bucks a week who can't afford to fill his gas tank or go to a doctor and is a month behind in his rent?

What about dramatically reducing the size of government 60 percent? How about eliminating needless government departments and programs, eliminating foreign aid, eliminate unionized government, eliminate several million overpaid government bureaucrats who sit around collecting taxes and thinking up new taxes, fees and fines?

Taxes should be cut across the board for all, at every level and the only way to do this is rein in the all consuming, controlling, regulating corrupt government. Do this and the tens of millions out of jobs, or underemployed will start finding work again and won't mind putting bit of skin in the game. In the process, America could actually regain some of it's freedom, which is also being incrementally consumed by government.

400 posted on 09/17/2012 11:59:02 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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