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Americans Are Literally Being Worked To Death
TEC ^ | 09/27/2012 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 09/28/2012 5:25:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: precisionshootist

These people are making good money if their ‘straightforward payroll taxes’ were $35K last year. If they’re talking about the total amount of taxes they had withheld as well, I imagine their final tax bill was less or he would have quoted that.


41 posted on 09/28/2012 7:03:15 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Wiser now

I know two nurses who work in dialysis clinics. The job is Monday through Friday from 8 to 5 and no weekends or holidays. Ever.


My step brother would like a dialysis clinic like that...he can never get a MWF schedule....always a weekend day in the mix (this is in FL)


42 posted on 09/28/2012 7:03:43 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: SeekAndFind

If the tax slaves work themselves to death in short, empty, meaningless lives, don’t worry. There are plenty more tax slaves where they came from.


43 posted on 09/28/2012 7:19:33 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Tell that to Jews in Germany in the 1930s.


44 posted on 09/28/2012 7:25:48 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: SaraJohnson
Welcome to the serfdom of globalization. Middle class Americans have always worked more hours than Europeans but they also had better health care benefits and a higher standard of living. Globalization and open borders is a race to the bottom - the lowest common denominator.

Ah someone who sees past the pre-programmed responses and gets it! Thanks for your comment.
45 posted on 09/28/2012 7:35:38 AM PDT by khelus
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To: SeekAndFind

If you are getting paid overtime what is the gripe? You can live good on overtime! In my 44 years of work history I NEVER turned down overtime except two days when I could not make it in.

I even planned my vacations around other people’s vacations so I could work their vacation schedule and get OVERTIME!

Holidays? I planned my work schedule so I could work their days off as I was not afraid of OVERTIME!

After all those years it paid off, even with the loss of much of my 401-K I was still able to retire in good shape.

But will my savings survive another OBAMA term?


46 posted on 09/28/2012 7:39:34 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Daveinyork

Fine then. I’m sure you would have time to look at this. Corporate profits rise and wages as a % of GDP go down. People are working the same or longer hours for a smaller and smaller portion of the rewards.

Efficiency? maybe. Mostly it looks like real wages are going down though since the median income has dropped by at least $3,000 a year and costs have gone up dramatically. Average fuel costs have gone up about $9,000 in the last three years in obamanation. That is a big number to a lot of people.

http://www.businessinsider.com/corporate-profits-just-hit-an-all-time-high-wages-just-hit-an-all-time-low-2012-6

In obamanation employers aren’t filling jobs, they are offering more hours to current employees to reduce exposure to uncertain costs and obligations mandated by the feds. I don’t blame them but it will eventually take a toll. Many people around here are spending 12 hours door to door. The drive gets worse every year and the roads get no better. There is no public transportation.

I really don’t understand where you are coming from. Sure there are sob stories and sure there are lots of people who don’t work all that hard but I see a lot of this across the board here in the city and the burbs.


47 posted on 09/28/2012 7:40:44 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: SeekAndFind

**we operated on a pay as yo go system for social security,**

What! Do you remember the government promise from 1964?

http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssa/usa1964-2.html

Self-Supporting

“The program is designed so that contributions plus interest on the investments of the social security trust funds will be sufficient to meet all of the costs of benefits and administration, now and into the indefinite future—without any subsidy from the general funds of the Government. Both the Congress and the Executive Branch, regardless of political party in power, have scrupulously provided in advance for full financing of all liberalizations in the program.”

And HERE is where the money went! Read and weep!

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/OACT/ProgData/fundFAQ.html#n4

Ever notice how hard it is to find these two web pages on the SSA web site?


48 posted on 09/28/2012 7:47:08 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Grams A

Count on my wife to bring things into perspective. I had rented a movie made in Mongolia about the rise of Ghengis Khan. I remarked that it was a hard land that bred hard people. My wife commented that people who whine in this day and age should keep that in mind, that they have no concept of hard times.

My parents grew up in the Great Depression. My dad quit school at 15 to go to work in a knitting mill, working twelve hours a day for 7.50 a week, and then delivering soft drinks for his father’s bottling business, until it went bankrupt. After he got finished paying his parents to help with their expenses, he had about 50 cents a week to spend on himself.

In the 1950’s, he and my mom were raising my brother and I and didn’t have enough money for the doctor bills, so my dad started a coin business, which he operated part-time while he still worked 7 to 5 every day in the knitting mill, and our family began to prosper enough that by 1959, he could afford by buy a second car.

Now, when was this middle class time of paradise for which we wax nostaligic?

I remember Perotistas calling Rush during the 1992 campaign telling that things were so bad that they could not get worse. They can, and they might, especially if Obama gets re-elected and even more so if the Dems regain Congress, but we boomers and echo-boomers have no concept of hard times.


49 posted on 09/28/2012 8:03:52 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: AlmaKing

Working in someone else’s business is vastly different than running it, by yourself, as sole employees. And it seems you’re projecting; I hardly feel sorry myself, nor am I a victim. I’m captain of my fiscal fate (with the exception of the invisible hand of economy and the ridiculous decisions of the current president). I’d rather drive my own bus than ride someone else’s.


50 posted on 09/28/2012 8:52:59 AM PDT by HGSW0904
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To: Daveinyork

Have never seen that movie but will try to find. Unfortunately, in another 10-15 years most everyone that was a small child at the end of WWII will be gone and with that no more grandparents to pass on the history of that time when they were a child. I don’t think of them as hard times. It was what it was. I had food to eat, clean clothes to wear, a warm house to live in, parents who loved and cared for me and God was the center of our life.

Today’s definition of hard times too often involves not having material things, like Jordan tennis shoes or an iPhone. Sad state of affairs.


51 posted on 09/28/2012 9:02:01 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Dead Corpse

“We work hard. We have to or we’d sink completely. Between taxes and regulations, we are operating on a fraction of our potential.
... Rich? Bet your ass we would be... Instead, yes... We are struggling.”

Now just a day or two ago, there was an article here about “saving” Social Security by raising the retirement age so folks will have to keep working until age 75 or 80:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2936245/posts

Sounds great, eh?
Enjoy the struggle!

P.S. If the Pubbies really, really think they can win over Americans to their side by promoting such stupid ideas as raising the retirement age much beyond what it is now, they really ARE going to be strugglin’ in the years to come...


52 posted on 09/28/2012 9:05:14 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Your post is more disinformation than anything.


53 posted on 09/28/2012 10:05:54 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Grams A

And all the people who’ve lost their jobs and homes aren’t having hard times?


54 posted on 09/28/2012 10:30:17 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: 9YearLurker

The average American work week in 1950 was 40 hours.


55 posted on 09/28/2012 1:10:44 PM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: 9YearLurker

40 hr weeks might have been typical work loads for hourly wage earners with steady work from one employer, but I don’t think I know one family member from three generations who didn’t work about 18hr workdays or about 80-100hr work weeks and Sundays were respected as a day of rest dedicated to God.


56 posted on 09/28/2012 1:19:08 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: EEGator

what? socialism?


57 posted on 09/28/2012 1:39:04 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: JerseyanExile

It was closer to twice that on a farm.


58 posted on 09/28/2012 1:52:01 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: yldstrk

No, like actually being able to put some money into savings or investments. I’m not against hard work, I’m simply stating that living paycheck to paycheck isn’t good. What if you lose your job? Now you can’t pay all your bills, and a negative spiral can happen.


59 posted on 09/28/2012 2:50:27 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

yeah, if you lose your job you are in bad shape. It has always been so.


60 posted on 09/28/2012 4:43:27 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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