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Rasmussen: Monday: OCT 1: O: 50% R: 47% (leaners only): Obama -12%
Rasmussen Reports ^ | 10/01/2012 | Rasmussen Reports

Posted on 10/01/2012 6:39:02 AM PDT by SoftwareEngineer

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows President Obama attracting support from 50% of voters nationwide, while Mitt Romney earns the vote from 47%. Two percent (2%) prefer some other candidate, and two percent (2%) are undecided. See daily tracking history.

These results include “leaners,” people who are initially uncommitted to the two leading candidates but lean towards one of them when asked a follow-up question. Platinum Members can still see the more detailed numbers along with demographic breakdowns, and additional information from the tracking poll on a daily basis.

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To: nhwingut

“The ads that have been run thus far are meant for the squishy undecided/former/soft Obama voter - to sort of gently hold their hand and walk them over to the Romney side of the street.”

No one campaigns in Cali so its hard for me to tell sometimes other than by counting bumper stickers...There aren’t any around this year except very few old 2008 Obama stickers and old Bush/Channey stickers from 2006.

I notice that Ras has the Undecided down to 2% in this poll when it was 5-7% in previous polls. Obama bumps up from 46-47% to 50%. Is this an outlier/weekend noise poll or have the “undecided” squishes moved in Obama’s direction?


51 posted on 10/01/2012 7:39:27 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare berry bear formerly known as Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: o2bfree

” ... we need something with more power. It needs to break through the confusing dynamic of the race ...”

It is very possible. Romney has so far been running as nothing, a blank slate, so if he takes a stand on anything, and says what he would do as president, then he has the very real possibility of “turning the race upside down” as one aide predicts.

The old/current Mitt Romney would begin the debate by praising President Obama for a few minutes, then asking Obama and moderators for permission to disagree with Obama a little. If Wednesday we see a new Mitt Romney who is any different and better from that, the polls could change.

No one wants some unknown guy to have his finger on the nuclear button. It’s not just the MSM. There are even articles from Romney’s left-wing Republican supporters, neocon columnists, that they are scared of Romney because they don’t understand him. That’s bad news, but it is also potential good news because Romney could change that really quickly if he really wants to and is man enough.


52 posted on 10/01/2012 7:39:51 AM PDT by Siegfried X
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To: SoftwareEngineer

Obama normally polls better on weekend polls


53 posted on 10/01/2012 7:40:15 AM PDT by zt1053
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To: SoftwareEngineer

Why is Rasmussen only giving “with leaners” results now? He used to give both. Was it even worse for Romney without leaners?


54 posted on 10/01/2012 7:44:48 AM PDT by Rokurota
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To: Vermont Lt
I think I will go buy 500 rounds of ammo and a bag of beans.

Do that. BTW, why do you care about Romney's campaign? Your tag line says you don't support him, anyway.

55 posted on 10/01/2012 7:46:10 AM PDT by TonyInOhio (~ It-Is-Later-Than-You-Think ~)
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To: Perkalong

This is the Guy they wanted so bad.

He’s running the quietest campaign I’ve ever seen.

Shame, because this president is awful and could be campaigned against in so many effective ways.

I still think that Romney will win, no way Obama can escape the economy.


56 posted on 10/01/2012 7:46:44 AM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: StarFan

Gives me the heebie jeevies too, but I still think Romney/Ryan can pull it out. Hate to win by a squeaker though. We need a mandate to change this country.

Only reason the post turtle is up to 50% (if indeed he is) is because of the Chavez vote - see Drudge headline.

Chavez and tin pot dictators love The Marxist, and the American people can’t see that?? “You didn’t build that,” and still he manages to deceive half the voters ??

The gov’t teat-suckers are sucking it dry. Then what are they going to do? Riot; and then comes the iron fist.


57 posted on 10/01/2012 7:55:13 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: ScottinVA

“Looking very, very bleak right now... 52% want Obamacare repealed, but they still want Obama anyway. Americans have lost their sanity.”

In complete agreement.

Even the normally ultra-conservative Washington Times has a piece up today about this:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/30/obama-widens-lead-confidence-against-romney-voters/

It surprised me that they would put up such a “downside” piece, considering the normal tenor of their reporting and editorial pages.

Come November 6, I know how I’m going to vote, regardless.

Deo Vindice!


58 posted on 10/01/2012 7:56:39 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: SoftwareEngineer

Getting better every day. I do believe we will pull this off and hopefully save the country and rid ourselves of Obamacare in the process!! Prayers up till election day.


59 posted on 10/01/2012 7:57:03 AM PDT by navymom1
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To: Vermont Lt

“It’s October first. At what point is Mitt going to start campaigning. I have a feeling we are going to be saying that on October 15.”

Yup.

Been reading some of the posts above, to paraphrase:

“Just wait! The whole tenor of Romney’s ads is going to change!”

“Just wait! Romney’s going ‘to turn things upside down’!”

“Just wait.... the big guns are coming....!”

Sounds like they’ve got General George B. McClellan as their chief campaign strategist!


60 posted on 10/01/2012 8:07:15 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: SoftwareEngineer

Ugh.

Romney’s say-nothing campaign isn’t working—unless this is the result he wants.


61 posted on 10/01/2012 8:10:03 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Siegfried X

If Romney’s aides actually believe running against Obama as a cipher up until the last couple of weeks of the election is a winning strategy, we are indeed in trouble.


62 posted on 10/01/2012 8:11:32 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Rokurota

Well, he had always said he was going to do that starting Oct 1.

At this point anyone who says she/he is a leaner, is pretty certain to vote for that guy

Gallup is also shifting to the likely model as of today


63 posted on 10/01/2012 8:12:54 AM PDT by SoftwareEngineer
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To: Road Glide

Remember how his campaign was going to change in August, and then after the conventions and Labor Day?

This is shaping up as McCain II.


64 posted on 10/01/2012 8:13:18 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

didn’t early voting already start?


65 posted on 10/01/2012 8:13:32 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: woweeitsme

A young African-American lady was there and said “Romney?!!? No way I’m voting for him...I don’t want my food stamps taken away”.


And I don’t want my money going to pay for your food stamps.

There we are even.


66 posted on 10/01/2012 8:26:07 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: GeronL
The media has to start to undo their skewing already?

Actually looking at their latest round of financials I can't understand how the MSM is continuing to stay afloat. Any other business would be experiencing mass layoffs and going out of business sales by now.

I have concluded that like the state governments of CA and IL they are betting their entire futures on getting a bailout in a second Obama term. Hence there will be no shame and no limits to how many times they take to the kneepads. Their future literally depends on it.


67 posted on 10/01/2012 8:33:48 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SoftwareEngineer

Rasmussen having Obama at 50% is terrible news for Romney. It doesn’t matter how undecideds break when the O is at 50%.

Everyone keeps waiting on Romney to throw open the throttle and go for the throat.

Here’s my guess.

He actually has always wanted to be a senator from Massachusetts. Since candidates can save their campaign funds from race to race, he is in the process of building a war chest for his next run at a Massachusetts senate seat.


68 posted on 10/01/2012 8:39:49 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: o2bfree

Holy cow. I just found a website with a TON of documents about Obama SR. I don’t know what good it will do and I didn’t read all but this is just to let all know what’s out there. I’ve never seen this on FR.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/54015762/Barack-Hussein-Obama-Sr-Immigration-File


69 posted on 10/01/2012 8:40:46 AM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: GlockThe Vote

I wonder too if using the word “uninformed” is not too generous to such persons and therefore inaccurate. They may be well unreachable.


70 posted on 10/01/2012 8:45:03 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( Who among us has not erred? Akin's the One!)
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To: ScottinVA

“52% want Obamacare repealed, but they still want Obama anyway”

That’s partially Romney’s fault, for running a “repeal and replace” campaign. Would Romney’s replacement be 99% like ObamaCare? 1% like OC? No one knows.


71 posted on 10/01/2012 8:46:19 AM PDT by Siegfried X
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To: Mr. Silverback

“Only two Presidents have had less support than the first time out and been re-elected: James Madison and Andrew Jackson.”

I don’t think that’s correct.

Michael Medved is the one who stated that no President ever one reelection without a larger vote the second time around. Madison won 122 electoral votes in 1808 and 122 in 1812. Jackson had 43.1% of the vote at 151,271 with 99 electoral votes in a four way race in 1824 and 56% of the vote at 624,286 with 178 electoral votes in a two way race in 1828.


72 posted on 10/01/2012 8:46:58 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: 9YearLurker

You are right; Romney hasn’t done much since April, when he pushed Santorum out. He seems just idling by hoping against “hope”. It is really absurd to hire those McPain staffers for 2012. Makes one wonder what is going on; maybe the Republican establishment is really for Obama.


73 posted on 10/01/2012 8:48:04 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( Who among us has not erred? Akin's the One!)
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To: ScottinVA; Jim Robinson

This is bleak. Rasmussen is the best and he has Obama at 50%. 50% means it makes zero difference how the undecideds break.

More than anything else, though, this says that Romney’s invisible campaign strategy is not working.

No way this economy, this foreign policy, this jobs data, and this distrust of America’s direction should have the guy responsible for that leading in a campaign for the presidency.

I’m in Ohio and I see/hear Obama ads regularly and seldom run across a Mitt ad. Someone explain that to me. The “keeping my powder” dry strategy was supposed to end with the Dem Convention. Are we now waiting for the first debate? After that will be await the 2nd?

This non-strategy should make ABOs who felt obligated to turn to Romney for the sake of their nation livid.


74 posted on 10/01/2012 8:49:28 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

good question


75 posted on 10/01/2012 8:50:10 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: xzins

Romney couldn’t win anything in MA again: they are for John Forbes Kerry there and shall so remain.


76 posted on 10/01/2012 8:50:44 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( Who among us has not erred? Akin's the One!)
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To: xzins

77 posted on 10/01/2012 8:52:23 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: woweeitsme

Paradoxical Quote of The Day From Ben Stein:

“Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen.”

Now add this, “Many of those who refuse, or are unable, to prove they are citizens will receive free insurance paid for by those who are forced to buy insurance because they are citizens.”


78 posted on 10/01/2012 8:53:09 AM PDT by madameguinot (Our Father's God to Thee, Author of Liberty)
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To: woweeitsme

This is the reason Obama is not just making food stamps available, but out there actively advertising them and giving states financial incentives to sign people up. It has nothing to do with helping the needy and everything to do with getting as many people as possible signed up for government freebies so that he can in effect buy their votes.


79 posted on 10/01/2012 8:53:28 AM PDT by JediJones (KARL ROVE: "And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.")
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To: Road Glide

I remember it being said in 1976 “Just wait, Gerald Ford is going to get the black vote!”


80 posted on 10/01/2012 8:53:34 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( Who among us has not erred? Akin's the One!)
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To: Perkalong

Good observatiion Pklong. Rasmussen is the honest one.

The truth is that Romney is content with his strategy of the “invisible campaign”, and it’s killing him.

I’m sensing it, and others are sensing it: Romney is coming across as unsure of himself.


81 posted on 10/01/2012 8:54:13 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: wolfman23601

tongue in cheek, wolfman.

Although it still isn’t flattering of Romney. The guy is a disaster.


82 posted on 10/01/2012 8:56:35 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: SoftwareEngineer

If the media would be doing its job Obama would be losing by 15 points.


83 posted on 10/01/2012 8:58:36 AM PDT by NJBushcountry
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To: Perkalong

Pat Cadell said on FOX last week that thousands of donors who maxed out to Romney in the primary have NOT donated to him in the general election. Cadell said it was the campaign’s fault for not making more of an effort to contact them. I’m not so sure that it wasn’t pro-Obama people who just tried to help Romney win the primary knowing he would be the least electable, as most of us here on FR knew (dull personality, implemented programs in Mass. that the base doesn’t like, inability to attack Obama on Obamacare, exotic Mormon religion, ability to portray him as heartless rich guy who laid off workers, etc.).


84 posted on 10/01/2012 8:58:36 AM PDT by JediJones (KARL ROVE: "And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.")
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To: mrs9x
I can’t believe people are throwing in the towel on this one. You have a challenger at 47%, and about 5-7% of Obama supporters say they are open to changing their minds about him.

I think the sad fact is, there are enough true conservatives who, when in the booth, won't be able to pull the lever for Mitt due to their character and morals. This will tip it for Hussein. Sad but true.
85 posted on 10/01/2012 8:59:02 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: Proud2BeRight

“Poll manipulation or nuances aside, a conservative candidate would have a 10%+ lead by now. “

Baloney.

Obama has bought the media, spent billions in taxpayer money to buy off group after group and he’s got the youth, minorities and other groups that conservatives and Republicans arent connecting with.

We need to stop being in fantasy land about the power of Obama’s socialist brand.


86 posted on 10/01/2012 8:59:18 AM PDT by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole America’s promise!)
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To: xzins

“I’m in Ohio and I see/hear Obama ads regularly and seldom run across a Mitt ad.”

Republican columnist Mona Charen says the same thing in Virginia:

“I live in Virginia, the swingiest of swing states. I expected that by now we’d be deluged with ads from both sides. But I’ve seen just two Romney ads.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/328853/romney-campaign-ads-mona-charen


87 posted on 10/01/2012 9:03:50 AM PDT by Siegfried X
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To: o2bfree
We need millions in ads that cause controversy and change the dynamic of the race.

Yep. The only way to stop the media from attacking Romney is to force them to spend time defending Obama against harsh ads. It helps doubly, because those ads then get promoted for free all over the media. Ads that offend libs are the ticket to winning elections (Willie Horton, Swiftboat, etc.).

88 posted on 10/01/2012 9:06:04 AM PDT by JediJones (KARL ROVE: "And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.")
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To: tatown

But the election is not next week. It’s 5 weeks away. Poll numbers fluctuate a lot in 5 weeks. But Romney does have to step it up a notch. It will be interesting to see how each candidate runs their campaigns. The one who is losing usually goes negative, and the one who is up in the polls stays positive. In the past few weeks, we’ve seen Romney essentially not going negative, but Obama has. If he was up in all these polls, you would think he would be the one staying positive. I don’t know. Maybe I’m just grasping at straws. I wish the election would hurry up and get here. I’m suffering severe anxiety from this thing.


89 posted on 10/01/2012 9:07:48 AM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: SoftwareEngineer

I have been reading the pro Obama polls internals.

Something is seriously wrong in America. Most respondents agree with Romney and know America is in the hurt locker due to Obama. And yet, they tell pollsters they are going to vote for Obama!

If the polls are right America is finished. We will have become just another European style socialist state where voters, controlled by a state run media, continually vote for what makes them feel good rather then for their own economic self interests.


90 posted on 10/01/2012 9:13:12 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: toddausauras

At this point, McCain was down 6 in Rass’s poll and it satyed that way all the way to election day.


91 posted on 10/01/2012 9:14:58 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: woweeitsme
You heard the voice of one of the generational public aid and food stamp mopes, who live off the dole and you and me. They're out there in good size numbers, and those who abuse the system, those who were given free “everything” by leftist obozo for the vote, will have to be reckoned with by means of a public aid/food stamps system overhaul, when Romney comes into power. And these mopes know it..it is the damage wrought by obozo that must be reversed.

Keep you mind free of negativity and keep positive...none of us have a crystal ball and we do NOT know the outcome in November..negative thinking drains our energy sources, our desire to fight for this WIN in November. Do not listen to the leftist propaganda...leftists LIE..remember Saul Alinsky confirmed this in his book, and obozo is following the rules of the socialist road to the letter. Don't be suckered in by the BS.

Pray to the Lord for guidance and strength, and then get up and get out there and be active with like minded people toward a win in November. Make sure your relatives, friends, neighbors, co-workers are registered to vote. Offer anyone a ride who needs it to register and vote in November. Volunteer at the polls to protect our vote.

Know that you're not alone when doubt and despair hits you. That's part of the fight, and now we have some idea of how soldiers feel during battle. But, we know the drill, and now let's get er’ done.

92 posted on 10/01/2012 9:14:59 AM PDT by itssme
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To: StarFan

Yes, he been up to 50% a couple of times. It ebbs and flows.


93 posted on 10/01/2012 9:16:01 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: JediJones

How about

1. Ad that thanks those that pay cell phone bills treating one million ohio people to free phones.

2. Bump in the road ads listing all the big bumps


94 posted on 10/01/2012 9:16:21 AM PDT by LongViewSC
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To: Perkalong

Dole was down 22 points in the polls at this point. Romney is with in the margin of error

Sorry your candidate of choice did not win the GOP nomination. Get over it.


95 posted on 10/01/2012 9:18:37 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: o2bfree

You are not seeing many Romney ads because your state is 10 point pro Romney. No reason to run ads in your state when the money can be spent better elsewhere.


96 posted on 10/01/2012 9:20:49 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: God luvs America
or Romney has no clue how to campaign....no reason obozo should be up at this point considering the numbers against him unless his opponent is giving it away

Read your own tag line. It answers your question why Obama is up.

97 posted on 10/01/2012 9:21:53 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: toddausauras

2008 was a virtual certainty Obama would win.

This could easily go either way. Although Ras says debates rarely change things, this year could be different with a massive number of viewers expected. I think a lot are looking for an alternative, and if Romney offers it, he should win.


98 posted on 10/01/2012 9:23:32 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: 9YearLurker; xzins; Road Glide

I see the usual panicky types are here.

Check this out, it might cheer you up:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvEOdIaw0fPNdHVOZnFENDdDYVFTRi1UMlgxQ0F4OVE#gid=0


99 posted on 10/01/2012 9:24:41 AM PDT by Ravi
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To: tatown

I think a lot just expect the economy to be bad forever, so that is factored into polls. Romney just needs to say it doesn’t have to be like that and offer change.


100 posted on 10/01/2012 9:26:11 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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