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Obama didn't lose the debate and Romney didn't win
Fox News ^ | 10/4/2012 | Juan Williams

Posted on 10/04/2012 3:50:20 PM PDT by tobyhill

Conventional wisdom about politics is usually wrong. That is why I often disagree with it.

But I can’t recall a time when I disagreed more profoundly with the conventional wisdom that has coalesced around a major news event.

In last night’s debate, I just didn’t see the overwhelming, game-changing victory for Mitt Romney that his supporters are touting all over television and the Internet today.

I didn’t see the humiliating defeat for President Obama that some liberals saw as they began their bellyaching about how President Obama has lost his momentum and could now lose the election.

I saw a serious, substantive policy debate in which neither candidate slipped up or neither candidate delivered a knockout punch. I saw a match that basically ended in a draw.

There was no one moment that I could point to as evidence that either candidate “lost” the debate.

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To: fortheDeclaration

Exactly, but you still do not get it.


41 posted on 10/06/2012 4:17:42 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7

Well, as long as you admit what you said was nonsense we are in agreement.


42 posted on 10/06/2012 4:20:57 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: tobyhill

Uh yeah, Obama DID lose and Romney DID win. No matter how hard you try to spin it.


43 posted on 10/06/2012 4:34:14 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

As long as you admit that you are a Master Debater, we are in agreement.


44 posted on 10/06/2012 4:41:38 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Delhi Rebels

Obama did not debate. He struggled to member and mumble talking points.

He had one objective....... Romney will raise taxes five trillion dollars. That was his goal........ he got shot out of the water before he reached the beach


45 posted on 10/06/2012 4:45:11 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: tobyhill

Juan really is a decent guy....so I won’t call him a moron, but delusional.

As I pointed at to a moon bat associate of mine...

The debate at best should have been a tie...

After all Obama has been trying to fix the economy for the last four years and should be an expert on all the issues....

Being the brilliant smartest guy in the room he should have easily won debate point after debate point....

The fact that he didn’t win any points shows he is either a fraud, not really working that hard at fixing the economy or simply incompetent

Of course in my book he is all three


46 posted on 10/06/2012 5:01:11 AM PDT by Popman (In a place you only dream of Where your soul is always free)
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To: bert
Obama did not debate. He struggled to member and mumble talking points.

There is no doubt Obama went in cocky and over-confident and under-prepared. It was a disaster for him. But there can also be no doubt that it won't happen again. These aren't stupid people, much as we'd like to think so. But Obama needs to score the kind of win that Romney did and I don't think that's going to happen. Romney will go in just as prepared and will go toe-to-toe with whatever game Obama brings. At best it'll be a tie for Obama. At worst it'll be another loss.

47 posted on 10/06/2012 5:34:17 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: tobyhill

Juan is in denial. Step 1 to overcoming an addiction is admitting your denial.

Juan Williams = EPIC FAIL


48 posted on 10/06/2012 6:22:03 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: tobyhill

Fox should have left this Obama brown-noser hanging in the wind after his NPR Smackdown.


49 posted on 10/06/2012 6:28:39 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Candor7

One doesn’t need to be a master debator to know your post was nonsense, just have common sense.


50 posted on 10/06/2012 11:47:59 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Just as you can not see that you are a Master Debater, you cannot see the opportunities that Romney had to really destroy Obhama in the debate.Romney held back when he should not have.This will be shown to be true.

So just keep on Master Debating.


51 posted on 10/06/2012 8:16:26 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7
No, Romney exposed Obama and that was what he had to do.

Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about, that is why your post was nonsense.

What will be shown to be true is that Romney is going to be President.

52 posted on 10/06/2012 8:24:21 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

LOL. And clearly you are a Master Debater.


53 posted on 10/06/2012 8:33:28 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7

It is clear, even to leftists, that Obama got his butt kicked.

They blame ABO, of course. Anybody But Obama.

http://asspos.blogspot.com/2012/10/debate-performance-blame-anybody-but.html


54 posted on 10/06/2012 8:35:52 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Candor7
I know debating enough to know that Romney won and that he accomplished what he needed to, to establish himself someone who is capable to be President.

So, once again, your post criticizing him was utter nonsense.

55 posted on 10/06/2012 11:05:41 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

You really are a Master Debater.


56 posted on 10/07/2012 11:05:28 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7

No, just someone with common sense who is able to recognize your statement as being nonsense.


57 posted on 10/07/2012 7:53:35 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Oh, and now you seek the status of Ultimate Master Debater?

Go for it!


58 posted on 10/09/2012 9:49:46 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7

There is no such status, but common sense is all one needs to know what you posted was utter nonsense.


59 posted on 10/09/2012 10:54:02 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: tobyhill

Poor Juan..He is sounding more and more delusional.


60 posted on 10/09/2012 11:01:04 AM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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