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Obama didn't lose the debate and Romney didn't win
Fox News ^ | 10/4/2012 | Juan Williams

Posted on 10/04/2012 3:50:20 PM PDT by tobyhill

Conventional wisdom about politics is usually wrong. That is why I often disagree with it.

But I can’t recall a time when I disagreed more profoundly with the conventional wisdom that has coalesced around a major news event.

In last night’s debate, I just didn’t see the overwhelming, game-changing victory for Mitt Romney that his supporters are touting all over television and the Internet today.

I didn’t see the humiliating defeat for President Obama that some liberals saw as they began their bellyaching about how President Obama has lost his momentum and could now lose the election.

I saw a serious, substantive policy debate in which neither candidate slipped up or neither candidate delivered a knockout punch. I saw a match that basically ended in a draw.

There was no one moment that I could point to as evidence that either candidate “lost” the debate.

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To: fortheDeclaration

Aha! An Uber Master Debater you want to be. Go for it!


61 posted on 10/09/2012 1:19:18 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7

There is no such status, but common sense is all one needs to know what you posted was utter nonsense.


62 posted on 10/09/2012 6:57:26 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration; Fred Nerks; Beckwith; TigersEye
Mitt Romney could have destroyed Obama , as a matter of fact Romney had several opportunities during the debate to do so. He could have really SCORED.I say he should have, you say not.

I say Romney was simply not strident enough, and should have taken the opportunity to destroy Obama and reveal Obama's true character lurking just beneath Obama's thin veneer of civility.

You are a Master Debater though, you do not think that a debate is meant to be won, that somehow Romney should be kind to the child we have in the Whitehouse, so as not to offend anyone ( undecided voters who do not really exist,they are pollster's figments of imagination). Well, you know where that approach got the diplomats in Benghazi, for example? Buahahahahahaha!

Romney had better start exuding strength, and soon. If not , he will be known as the almost elected president.America needs a strong president at this time, not a weak one who forgoes the opportunity to be completely victorious over an opponent. Such strength would have created a far greater bounce in the polls for Romney, as it is now he is 2 to 3 points behing Obama in swing states.He could be up 5 to 6 points if he had really taken advantage of the openings he had to really destroy Obama during the debate.

And here is your Master Debater award, specifically designed for those who are afraid to reach for sure and ultimate strategic victory, and a display of the mitigated strength of weenie-ism, the same kind of weakness that infects our entire state department now and much of our military Rules of Engagement:

Award to fortheDeclaration:

master-debater Romney got his chance and never took it, making it a kangaroo debate. I am nominating you also for the cunning linguist award.

63 posted on 10/10/2012 8:50:23 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7
I say Romney was simply not strident enough, and should have taken the opportunity to destroy Obama and reveal Obama's true character lurking just beneath Obama's thin veneer of civility.

Romney did all right, but he better take your advice for the next go around.

I'm not a master debater, but I do well in a street fight, and a street fight is what Romney had better be ready for. In a situation where you have to knock down or else get dragged out, you don't think about being the crowd's hero, you think about being the enemy's nightmare.

64 posted on 10/10/2012 9:09:13 AM PDT by Tuanedge (Warriors victorious in a hundred battles, flee when a tiger enters their tent.)
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To: Candor7

There is no such status, but common sense is all one needs to know what you posted was utter nonsense.


65 posted on 10/10/2012 10:15:36 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Candor7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=dKMUHcgsbag&feature=endscreen

whenever I have any doubts, I watch this...sometimes without the sound, just watching the facial expressions of the creature on the right screen...


66 posted on 10/10/2012 3:46:16 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

The last Obama/Romney debate is about Foreign Policy.

With the House Oversight Committee Hearings we saw today, Romney SHOULD be able to destroy Obama utterly.He will have that opportunity.Romney needs to bore Obama a new one on national TV, using the Benghazi fiasco as a magic bullet.


67 posted on 10/10/2012 4:13:15 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Fred Nerks

Yes, thats a good clip of Romney laying it to the smirking Obama.

You might like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhQRkMKyePI&feature=relmfu


68 posted on 10/10/2012 4:16:10 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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