[ReaganCowboy]

Really? Because I worked with COL Kip Ward in Bele Dogle, Somalia, 1992-93, and was very impressed by him. Don’t know about his later activities as a general officer, but he was a damn fine Brigade Commander in the Tenth Mountain Division.

And if you’ve never passed out in a PT run at least once in the military, then you weren’t trying hard enough.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"And if you’ve never passed out in a PT run at least once in the military, then you weren’t trying hard enough."

Well, I guess you can count me as not trying hard enough. Though I've made runs up Margarita Peak on Pendleton and hiked up Mt Fuji in Japan and did many other ball busting runs...

[Travis McGee]

Made it through BUD/S Class 105 in 1979, then east coast frogs, never passed out on a run. Guess I didn’t try hard enough.

[CodeToad]

"And if you’ve never passed out in a PT run at least once in the military, then you weren’t trying hard enough." Huh?

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

That was 20 years ago. A decade in Washington probably warped his brain.