Skip to comments.Curiouser And Curiouser: Romney Surprises Us.
Posted on 10/11/2012 5:14:48 PM PDT by Lazamataz
It was obvious to me, and to all ConservativeKind, that Romney was an East Coast RINO, the sort of politician who we detest almost more than an "honest" liberal Democrat.
We were off-put by his Massachussettes record, we were enraged at his selection, and we vowed to fight him right up to the very second he was named the Republican candidate.
Yet, a few things happened recently that call into question our assumption:
In Miami, Romney said he reached out to Democrats to make deals -- most notably, the state health care plan, which he did not explicitly mention during Wednesdays event.
"My legislature was 85 percent Democrat," he said. "It did not take a rocket scientist to realize I had to work with people across the aisle. I didnt attack the senate president, I didnt attack the speaker of the house, I had to work with them. I hope we have a Republican House and a Republican Senate and I get elected as president. But I will not ignore people across the aisle."
Color me skeptical about working with the enemy should we capture the House and Senate, but okay. I can see this in a man of honor.
So: Could it be? Could our wildest fantasies be realized? Could we have accidentally stumbled into a candidate that we fought tooth-and-nail, who is actually a conservative, or close to one?
It's worth gambling on. I have changed my vote from third party to Mitt Romney.
If he turns out to be more conservative than I expected it will be a pleasant surprise.
Yes, I know I misspelled "Massachusetts". Two things work in my defense: 1) The spell check and grammar website 'spellcheckplus' did not flag the error. I noted that and made a mental note to correct it. FAIL.
2) The state is too liberal to deserve correct spelling. :P
Yeah, my ears perked up when he mentioned the 10th Amendment too. I have been reevaluating my position that I would probably vote for Johnson.
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I have to tell you, the rest of the factors would have gone unnoticed, had he not mentioned the 10th Amendment. That one mention turned the tide for me on Romney. He might be alright.
I think you might owe me an apology.
People around here get banned for heresy like this.
I have stopped posting on political threads because of it.
The 10th Amendment mention, heretofore never seen in my adult lifetime by any ‘mainstream’ candidate, didn’t do a thing for you?
I'm not a Mitt fan. I voted Santorum. However, I know for a fact that Mitt would fire 99%, if not 100% of Obama's cabinet and czars. He'd also have a chance at appointing decent Justices to SCOTUS. At worst, it won't be Holder as AG and Kagan on the Supreme Court.
Hi Laz. Do you expect any surprises from Ryan?
Just don’t back down from him. Vote for him if you must but be unafaid to speak up when he does wrong.
There's someting to be said for that.
It certainly beats that n're-do-well that we have in the White House today.
Those days have passed. Romney is the candidate. Like I noted, we fought Romney tooth and nail. This site was no exception. JimRob has indicated that it is time to stop fighting Romney.
But this article is more than simple compliance: It is how I feel. Something happened during the debate that blew me away: The mention of the 10th Amendment, and to a much lesser degree, Romney mentioning the Constitution in the background of their stage. Pretty amazing stuff for a purported 'liberal', no?
I watched that ~ you didn't do that.
In before the Laz and Humble Gunner Pic !
Have crossed over Laz. Once the picture appeared, it hit me, you are an alien! Thank You, Mr. Alien.
I must, regrettably, decline to apologize, sir. I fought valiently and honestly against Romney with the facts at my disposal.
New facts have been introduced. I will not apologize for changing my mind based on new facts; I will not apologize for a political fight waged before I had those new facts.
He’ll probably be somewhere between Bush 41/43 and Reagan. Anywhere in there is 10X better than Barack Hussein Obama on his best day, nicht wehr?
Please no. Anything but that horrid thing. Perhaps next year we will redo the picture and it will NOT suck.
you know, a few months ago, you would be zotted for writing this.
Sure. But mainstream political candidates, in my adult lifetime? Not so much, as to mentions thereof.
I like you, wanted someone else, not the least Sarah, but I have concluded that she is a big deal who doesn’t need any title to be a big deal, and Romney is exactly the guy we need now.....
I will always love Sarah, and she will for always be bigger than the “game” but Romney is the right guy....
CORRECTION: Sure. But mainstream political Presidential candidates, in my adult lifetime? Not so much, as to mentions thereof.
Cynicism and pessimism are easy, and you are sure to get plenty of both on this thread. In fact, looks like it has already started from the usual suspects. However, I have been saying for a while, to my family and friends, that I think Romney may just surprise a lot of people. When you are a governor, you govern, to some extent, to the will of the governed. Massachussets (I don’t care how it’s spelled, either) is not the U.S. Hairy Reed aside, Mormons are generally family valued conservative types. Besides, even if we get a socially liberal guy who knows what a balance sheet is and doesn’t hate the country, we’re a whole bunch better off than where we are. And, we don’t get that by throwing our vote away voting for someone who ain’t winning.
If Obama is reelected by 2016 we will be so far over the fiscal cliff there will be no climbing back. Romney sees the chart below as a problem. 0bama thinks the problem is we have not spent enough!
Obama added planks favoring Gay Marriage and taxpayer funded abortion on demand up to birth to the 2012 Democrat Party platform.
By contrast the 2012 GOP platform is the most Conservative one in their history.
No matter how much one might hate Romney, no one with a brain would refuse to see the stark difference between Romney and Obama on both fiscal and social issues.
With Romney Fiscal and Social Conservatives have a seat at the table, while Obama will actively promote everything real Conservatives are against.
By 2016 everything Conservatives claim to be so passionate about will be legislated. As Roe V Wade should of taught Conservatives once something is legislated it become almost impossible to undo.
Once 2016 rolls around the Judiciary will be so packed with Obamabots anything Conservatives DID manage to legislate would simply be undone by Judicial Fiat.
If Obama is reelected there will be nothing left to win.
After another 4 year term of Obama the USA will be a European style 1 party state with a state directed media, that will allow just enough political window dressing from a loyal opposition to keep their peon classes passive.
And those around here who feel their political sour grapes from the 2012 GOP Primaries are more important then the future of our country will have been the active allies of that destruction.
Maybe. But a few months ago, the factors I outlined had not occurred.
“Yes, I know I misspelled ‘Massachusetts’.”
But you didn’t misspell it the right way. These are three of the most common wrong/right ways to spell it:
So, Laz, how many chickens are we gonna get out of these eggfs?
First Romney figured this out as a way to get cover for all of his leftism and anti-conservatism as a Governor.
Second, this fits in with Mormonism and their ownership of the state of Utah, Polygamy is on it's way back, among other ways that the Mormon cult can assert total control over Utah.
I view it only as a win-win. If we are wrong, the status quo as we believed it will be extant. If we are RIGHT, though... ahhhh, now THAT will be SWEET.....
Life , freedom, small govt., Planned Parenthood, PBS....damn ! John Bolton at the UN !
He seems to know what he believes, but I'll bet his VP has bolstered the good and perhaps bent the bad back into conservative shape.
Conservative support in the house is already there, and will be significant now too in the Senate.
It's painfully clear this country is in a perilous state, and only common sense conservative policies have a chance to turn the ship around. Which will happen with an unleashed energy sector and useless burdensome regulatory bull crap stripped from the codes.
There will be a huge economic boom when all the sidelined money comes back onto the table and cheap energy runs the businesses of this country. US will prosper while the rest of the world flounders. Our oil money will dry up to end the financing of ME terrorists. I hope I'm not foreseeing a novel, but actual future headlines.
Your #5 - Jeff Head has been saying this for a long time. And he’s one of the three or four freepers I’d trust the most.
I remember Governor Perry bringing up the 10th during the debates. But that was then, this is now. After watching his acceptance speech and the debate last week, I feel better about voting for Romney. Heck, I’m even considering a yard sign.
So who was it read the 10th? You had several members of the House running as candidates ~ did one of them do it? Can’t rule that out without knowing who did it. Bachmann could have read it, or Ron Paul even.
See my #34. If I am wrong, no eggs. If I am right... and the factors I cited are promising.... then we will have many eggs.
I know how you feel Laz. I am starting to at least entertain the notion.
I too have decided to vote for Romney, rather than write-in Palin.
If for no other reason than I have seen absolutely no effective check on Obama’s excesses in the exercise of power. Not the Press. Not the Republicans. Not the Courts. Not the criminal justice infrastructure. Not the military infrastructure. Not tradition, culture, or past practice.
Romney is our best chance to get this guy out from behind the levers of power.
Frankly, if Hillary Clinton was Obama’s most credible opposition, I’d vote for her.
As for Romney's alternative it's a disaster in the making should he be reelected, his comment in Russia clearly shows Obama’s intent.
A) I am referring to mention, not an actual reading of the Amendment, and B) I am referring only to 'mainstream' (read: Democrat or Republican) Presidential candidates.
And on those conditions, you cannot help to be a little interested at Mitt's mention of that all-important Amendment.
I take it you like this. :)
He sure convinced me that he wants to be POTUS so much, he’ll say anything...
Glad you had a fun time at the shoot. It was entertaining to follow along in the ethersphere.
i know why mitt favors the 10th. we’ll discuss those in February.
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