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Curiouser And Curiouser: Romney Surprises Us.
Free Republic Original Content | October 11, 2012 | by Laz A. Mataz

Posted on 10/11/2012 5:14:48 PM PDT by Lazamataz

It was obvious to me, and to all ConservativeKind, that Romney was an East Coast RINO, the sort of politician who we detest almost more than an "honest" liberal Democrat.

We were off-put by his Massachussettes record, we were enraged at his selection, and we vowed to fight him right up to the very second he was named the Republican candidate.

Yet, a few things happened recently that call into question our assumption:

  1. The Debate. Sure Romney shined. Yes, Obama sulked. The contrast in performance was wonderful to behold. But this is not enough for conservatives: A skilled RINO is as deadly to our cause as an incompetent Marxist. No, the critical takeaway from this debate, for me, was the not-insignificant mention of the 10th Amendment! Perhaps I am wrong about this, but in my adult lifetime, I do not believe I have ever heard any Democrat or Republican candidate mention this all-important limitation of the Federal Behemoth.
  2. In the very same debate, Romney repeatedly observed that the private sector manages the economy much better than central planning at the Federal level. Any student of history surely recognises this, but Obama seems to be only a student of his own "magnificent self". This core belief tells me we are dealing with a Capitalist, and this checks off another box for those of us who value conservatism.
  3. Again, at the debate: Romney, when finished, hugged his many children. This is small, but significant, since I observed Obama hug only his wife and his aides. Family values WIN.
  4. An interview by the NRA of Romney shows a much different Romney than has been portrayed by our conservative brethren. Yes, of course, Romney will be a little more compliant to the views of the NRA when in front of them, yet his going on record will make it more difficult to flip flop -- and remember, a first term means he needs to live to his word to garner support for a second.
  5. I have heard, from the rumor mill, that Romney's closest aides say he is much more conservative than his record in Massachussettes shows, and that he actually has to tamp his beliefs down a bit to connect with the fuzzy middle of America, the all-important Independent. Hearsay? Absolutely. Yet this is a tiny wisp of smoke that may indicate a hidden fire.
In Massachussettes, Romney had to play ball with liberals to get anything done at all. In his own words:

In Miami, Romney said he reached out to Democrats to make deals -- most notably, the state health care plan, which he did not explicitly mention during Wednesday’s event.

"My legislature was 85 percent Democrat," he said. "It did not take a rocket scientist to realize I had to work with people across the aisle. I didn’t attack the senate president, I didn’t attack the speaker of the house, I had to work with them. I hope we have a Republican House and a Republican Senate and I get elected as president. But I will not ignore people across the aisle."

Color me skeptical about working with the enemy should we capture the House and Senate, but okay. I can see this in a man of honor.

So: Could it be? Could our wildest fantasies be realized? Could we have accidentally stumbled into a candidate that we fought tooth-and-nail, who is actually a conservative, or close to one?

It's worth gambling on. I have changed my vote from third party to Mitt Romney.


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To: Lazamataz
Have to see you shoot first.............

You may not be worth it...

51 posted on 10/11/2012 5:45:07 PM PDT by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Hardraade; Jeff Head; Travis McGee
Your #5 - Jeff Head has been saying this for a long time. And he’s one of the three or four freepers I’d trust the most.

Agreed. Another man I view having extreme credibility is our own Travis McGee.

Ping to Trav. Read this editorial if you have the time. It is interesting to entertain the notion we may have stumbled onto a win.

52 posted on 10/11/2012 5:45:31 PM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: Lazamataz

I think Mr. Romney is going to surprise everyone and not just the democrats. It’s good to see people coming around


53 posted on 10/11/2012 5:45:57 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Hopey changey low emission unicorns and a crap sandwich)
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To: Lazamataz
I'd vote for Hubert Humphrey if he was running against Barack Obama. Having said that, all the threads I've posted since Gov. Romney became the presumed nominee have made me much more optimistic than I was a year ago.
54 posted on 10/11/2012 5:46:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: wolfpat

A vote for Johnson (that kook?) is a vote for Obama.


55 posted on 10/11/2012 5:46:14 PM PDT by Combat_Liberalism
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To: TADSLOS
The best this nation can expect from a Romney administration is a momentary step back from the abyss.

If that's the "best"....then we are doomed.

56 posted on 10/11/2012 5:46:42 PM PDT by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why in the wide, wide world of sports am I on your ping list?

/johnny

57 posted on 10/11/2012 5:47:27 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: chiller
I've long maintained here that Mitt might be one hell of a conservative (as most Mormons are)

That is an unsung indicator as well. I did not mention it -- on purpose -- because I hate stereotyping any religion (except Islam), and also because exceptions exist in any religion (except Islam).

58 posted on 10/11/2012 5:47:29 PM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: Lazamataz

all in here.....


59 posted on 10/11/2012 5:47:42 PM PDT by is_is (VP Dad of Sgt. G - My Hero - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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To: TADSLOS

It would be disappointing if you are right. Still: The factors are there.


60 posted on 10/11/2012 5:48:41 PM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
He sure convinced me that he wants to be POTUS so much, he’ll say anything...

Or -- and just as likely -- he governs a group of people as they wish to be governed. Liberally in Massachusetts, more moderately, or even conservatively, in America as a nation.

I make no real prediction. In the spirit of what Fox News once was, I report, you decide.

61 posted on 10/11/2012 5:51:07 PM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: Combat_Liberalism

I’m SO tired of the idiocy that “a vote for” (insert name here)” is a vote for Obama.”

It wouldn’t be my fault if the Republicans nominate someone who is unacceptable for me to vote for. That “Lessor of two Evils” stuff has been a disaster for us so far.

Romney’s performance in the debate may have convinced me that he’s not so bad after all.


62 posted on 10/11/2012 5:51:09 PM PDT by wolfpat (Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. -- Cicero)
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To: cripplecreek; skeeter

>>Just don’t back down from him. Vote for him if you must but be unafaid to speak up when he does wrong.

I think we all learned our lesson with Bush on that one.


63 posted on 10/11/2012 5:52:15 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: Lazamataz
Cautiously optimistic

Damn, that .50 cal pistol barks, huh?.....

{:0)

64 posted on 10/11/2012 5:52:20 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Lazamataz

I vote absentee and have already voted for Romney. I beat you!


65 posted on 10/11/2012 5:52:32 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thank you.


66 posted on 10/11/2012 5:52:59 PM PDT by lysie
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To: Lazamataz

Romney is whatever he needs to be.

I am not a fan, but what choice do I have?

Third Party ?

Really?

I pissed away my vote on Perot in 1992 and it gave us 8 years of Bubba and damned near 20 years of Hillary ad FLOTUS, Senator D-NY, and now Sec of State. Yeah...third party that really worked out well didn’t it ?

I have come to realize that the path is to expurgate the RINO’s from the Republican party much the same as the democRATS have gotten rid of those who are not communists.


67 posted on 10/11/2012 5:53:21 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I don’t have a “ping list” anymore. Just thought you might want to see this.


68 posted on 10/11/2012 5:53:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Osage Orange; BuckeyeTexan
Have to see you shoot first............. You may not be worth it...

Well, Buckeye looked on as I made a can dance from 10 to 25 yards, hitting 9 out of 10 shots with a Glock.

Maybe that was an abberation, maybe that was an improvement in my skill set -- but whatever it was, it got me very excited!

69 posted on 10/11/2012 5:53:53 PM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: Lazamataz

Good post, Laz. Somewhat mirrors my feelings.

Thanks for the pingeroo!


70 posted on 10/11/2012 5:54:43 PM PDT by meyer (It's 1860 all over again - the taxpayer is the new "N" word)
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To: Lazamataz

His VMI speech was also very good. I’m am still hesitant, but hopeful with a proper congress. Down ticket is critical.


71 posted on 10/11/2012 5:55:37 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: wolfpat

So vote for him.


72 posted on 10/11/2012 5:55:56 PM PDT by Combat_Liberalism
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To: Lazamataz

Factors are always present to weigh decisions. The key is the action taken. Personally, I remain unconvinced a Romney administration will do anything of substance to reset the nation back to its Constitutional setting, but I’m glad to see that you have some confidence I don’t possess.


73 posted on 10/11/2012 5:56:53 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Conservatism didn't magically show up in Romney's heart in 2012. You can't force what isn't in you.)
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To: MileHi; Bacon Man
Damn, that .50 cal pistol barks, huh?.....

I suspect Bacon Man set me up. He allowed me to fire the .44 earlier and it looked identical to the .50. It fired with a manageable, if sturdy, recoil.

Then he graciously let me fire the .50, and all of a sudden, he wants to video it.

Well played, Bacon Man. ;^)

Well played indeed.

74 posted on 10/11/2012 5:57:12 PM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: Lazamataz

I’m waiting for Rage Monkey’s commentary.


75 posted on 10/11/2012 5:57:17 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Had to check up-thread, and when did, realized finally beat a ping. Thanks, only second ping win. Have to celebrate when beating the ping.
76 posted on 10/11/2012 5:58:32 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Lazamataz

Frankly, Frank, I’m at the point where I don’t care if Mitt is as bad as we imagined him to be a couple of months ago, I want the Communist Kenyan out!

In the meantime, I hope that Romney will use the debates to educate the sheeple, and force the MSM’s hand to educate them. For instance, he could mention the bowing down to the tyrant of Saudi Arabia, forcing the MSM to show the picture. And so on.


77 posted on 10/11/2012 6:00:02 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Lazamataz

Voting for Romney is like crashing into a thick line of bushes to avoid going off a cliff. At least there’s a (hopefully, good) chance of surviving.

Formerly...

Voting for Romney is like crashing into a tree to avoid going off a cliff. At least there’s a chance of surviving.


78 posted on 10/11/2012 6:01:21 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Lazamataz

It is good that you changed your vote from Third Party. Everyone is needed to defeat the Left and Obama. Third Party never wins and never will. So thankfully, you’ve seen the light, at least this time. Now, hopefully, you’ll get others out to vote. All hands onboard!


79 posted on 10/11/2012 6:01:32 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: TADSLOS
Remember, also, that most GOP candidates follow Nixon's advice: Run to the right to get the nomination; run to the left to get the presidency.

Interesting that Romney's statements are more to the right than Nixon would have advised.

80 posted on 10/11/2012 6:01:51 PM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: ansel12
Polygamy is on it's way back, among other ways that the Mormon cult can assert total control over Utah.

Polygamy is coming back?

Ugh! That means multiple mothers-in-law.

Let's stick with monotony.

81 posted on 10/11/2012 6:02:44 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: All

The days of staying home are over. We need to create a deep farm system, filled with people that can run for congressional seats if they open quickly. Those people need to reflect our values or get shown the door in a primary. We need work at this as if it were a part job, stay informed, stay engaged, encourage people to do the same at social events, BBQs and county fairs. Our job to to elect a guy that will replace Obama and make sure he doesn’t have to compromise or reach across the aisle because it won’t be necessary. The rancid stink of stateism needs to be blown away and replaced with freedom and self reliance.


82 posted on 10/11/2012 6:04:04 PM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: Lazamataz
Romney, when finished, hugged his many children. This is small

NO, Laz. That is HUGE.

THAT alone changes EVERYTHING.

I saw the demeanor of the 2 wives predebate. And I knew Romney was going to SMOKE o's butt.

obama surrounds hisself with trash. Romney surrounds himself with love.

83 posted on 10/11/2012 6:09:31 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( I will stand with the CHRISTIANS should the political winds shift in an ugly direction)
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To: Lazamataz
i want to believe

more power to ya brother...

but as you said, rinos are dangerous beasts...be careful what you wish for...

84 posted on 10/11/2012 6:21:05 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Lazamataz

“Or — and just as likely “

Sorry Laz. That is entirely speculation on your part. He is what he’s done. He is a shapeshifter, whose core is his desire to attain power.


85 posted on 10/11/2012 6:28:19 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Sorry, gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international. Gone.)
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To: Lazamataz

I want to believe but, since my vote doesn’t matter in CA I don’t intend on pulling the lever for him, just as my little FU to GOPe, RNC Reince and a bunch of other Aholes.

CA is polling 24% over for Obama but, I hear differently the day before I might be convinced to pull for him but, I don’t see how.

There are way to many moochers.

Hell, the Moocher State wouldn’t even submit their unemployment numbers in time to correctly record and accurate count of national unemployment.

Significant? Well, the numbers are vastly different by then fold than Delaware and I don’t believe for a minute it was accidentally in any way.

Back to Romney, these have to school Barry and Joe and educate in a the starkest and clearest manner what the alternative looks like.


86 posted on 10/11/2012 6:37:54 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Lazamataz

Laz

Another “Home Run”

Again I am in your debt for pointing out what should be obvious to the most casual observer ...

Props

TT


87 posted on 10/11/2012 6:57:13 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: Lazamataz

I’m glad you’re changing your vote Laz, every vote counts.

I too have come to like Romney a lot more through this campaign. I now see him as a very smart, very hardworking man who also strives to be a good person.

I did not like him so well before, but I did not know enough about him to have serious policy problems with him.

I suppose that some of those policy problems remain, but as a person I now see him as an OK guy, not a fake “ken doll” type person as I saw him before.

And his wife is wonderful and he adores her and that counts for a lot, an awful lot actually.

I’ve also come to the strong conclusion that regardless of any policy disagreements I would have with him, Romney is indeed uniquely qualified to turn our economy around. Fixing failing enterprises is his stock in trade and he has been successful at it.

And besides, he passes the “not Obama” test, and that’s always been enough.


88 posted on 10/11/2012 8:24:44 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: ansel12

89 posted on 10/11/2012 8:25:46 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: Lazamataz

Excellent as usual Laz.


90 posted on 10/11/2012 9:03:59 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Lazamataz

In the debate Romney performed sort of like how were hoping Newt might do. Stunningly effective.

Love these clips of Rom-Zilla stomping Obambi.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV?id={071B255A-01DA-468F-816F-6368B4411EFE}&title=RNC-Ad-Smirk


91 posted on 10/11/2012 9:04:30 PM PDT by garjog (We do not want another four more years of the last four years.)
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To: Lazamataz
Thxs, for the ping. :)..

92 posted on 10/11/2012 9:05:57 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; w/ different flie$" :^)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks for the Ping!


93 posted on 10/11/2012 9:06:15 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Lazamataz
LAZ ? are you the Alaskan King Crab Boat fisher man or that other guy ?

94 posted on 10/11/2012 9:16:13 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Lazamataz

LAZ ? read the mail I sent you.


95 posted on 10/11/2012 9:17:51 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Darren McCarty
Rumor has it that Jay Sekulow would be on Mitt Romney's team of selecting Supreme Court justices.... if Jay Sekulow is on it then I am ok with that.
No matter, once Mitt Romney is deemed the winner coming Nov 6-7 the stock markets and financial markets will respond positively....
96 posted on 10/11/2012 9:25:38 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
" He’ll probably be somewhere between Bush 41/43 and Reagan. Anywhere in there is 10X better than Barack Hussein Obama on his best day, nicht wehr? "


Can we say it Jim Rob ?


HECH YEAH !

Is it me ? or do others know or feel the same way that companies and those people with big money are holding back to see who wins in Nov ?

97 posted on 10/11/2012 9:33:12 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist

Companies all over the country are holding back on EVERYTHING til this 0bamanition is gone! We are on a continued holding pattern for hiring, expanding, etc.


98 posted on 10/11/2012 9:35:21 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I plan on voting for Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan on November 6th. One cannot state clearer then that the voting position they hold.


99 posted on 10/11/2012 9:39:57 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Lazamataz
You say, “I want to believe.” I guess it's easy to believe a man sized Etch-A-Sketch who tells you he is a “severe” conservative, unless you believe his track record and his own recent words about homos, etc.. He isn't close to being conservative, but he's not Hussein so I understand your vote.
100 posted on 10/11/2012 9:43:37 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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