Posted on 10/11/2012 7:41:05 PM PDT by Milagros
It didn't take long for me to think that Ryan had already won. He won by being a knowledgeable respondent to questioning by the moderator. Biden lost by being the ass that he always is - demonstrating very little impressive knowledge - while being continuously rude when Ryan was answering.
One question I have - how much speaking time was allowed to each of the participants. If truth be told, I believe Biden hogged most of the time.
Turn on MSNBC. Tingles, Madcow, and the kraut are ecstatic about Bidens performance.
A split only stops the bleeding for Obama. It doesn’t get him back where he needs to be.
Biden stopped what might have been a free fall. Now Obama has to climb his way back. It remains to be seen if he can do that but I already indicated how difficult it can be if you’re the underdog in the race.
Who do you think won the vice presidential debate?
Paul Ryan
53%
Joe Biden
41%
Neither
6%
Total Votes: 32677
>>Lib commentators think Biden did poorly with all the laughter and smiles.
For once I agree with lib commentators.
Biden looked idiotic with the grinning. Biden acted like a bratty bully with the interrupting. Biden sounded like a clueless imbecile with so many responses of “malarkey” He should have gone straight to “neener, neener.” And he sounded like a shifty used car salesman or a con man with all the smarmy insincere “my friend” remarks.
I’d say Biden would have eked out a draw based solely on not allowing his opponent to get a word in edgewise. However, Biden acted in such a repugnant manner that I have to give it to Ryan on points.
I think its at best a draw. The media may be right Biden staunched the bleeding but that wasn’t enough.
On style points, I’d give this debate to Ryan.
Paul Ryan
53%
Joe Biden
42%
Neither
6%
Total Votes: 37799
Laughter and smiles aside, Biden was rude and inconsiderate as hell.
Another poll ping.
CBS flash poll has Biden winning debate 65% to 35% A lot of people are seeing Bidens Laughing and interrupting as confidence.
I don’t see Obama recovering. I think we saw the real Romney and the real Obama at that first debate. If Obama comes out swinging he’ll seem prepped and fake. If he pulls a Southside Chicago Pastor act he’ll finish himself with the white vote and election. If he remains passive and arrogant he’ll lose again. So it’s lose/lose for Obama.
He’s losing the media and those liberal whores are cheap. If you cannot keep them in your camp it’s over. I believe we’re at an inflection point not just in the campaign, but throughout our country.
If conservatives don’t want to go back and forth from election to election we need to not let up after the election. We need to have a half century plan to return our republic to greatness. Our ideas are superior and we need to lead with them. It’ll take some training/educating to bring about change.
That’s not going to happen in Washington or at the action of any politician, but from us as individuals innovating our way out of this mess. There are millions of solutions just waiting for government to get out of the way.
That’s what I’m most excited about with Romney. He wasn’t my fifth choice in this race, but I didn’t think he would be as devastated as others did by his Romneycare issue in MA. Even then I saw it as an opening to federalism and state’s rights. That’s exactly how Romney and his team used it.
That’s wise as a political strategy to win this campaign, but the real benefit to America is a return to federalism with states competing. I also like Romney’s pick of Ryan and this debate solidified that for me. I know that Ryan’s debt plan isn’t perfect, but he’s sharp and dedicated. A VP can be a force multiplier for a President and I believe Ryan will be very busy in a Romney WH.
Romney doesn’t just want to win, he wants to serve two terms and see his VP elected. I’m not counting the victory until Nov. 7, but I’m hopeful.
Bad etiquette is in good taste these days?
I think people have forgotten their “Emily Post.” And winning at all costs is not the most desirable thing in life.
There’s a big difference between confidence and snarkiness dressed up as it.
Bad etiquette is in good taste these days?
Unfortunately, yes. This isn’t 2000 where Gores sighing was viewed as crude and impolite. This is 2012. Rudeness and mocking are viewed as signs of strength and confidence whereas politeness is seen as weakness.
Joe came off as a school yard bully. He didn’t help “the creep” with the independent women vote. Not one little bit.
I thought so too. I also was disgusted with that woman interrupting Ryan whenever you could see that Ryan was going to do one of his efficient, excellent comments-—she butted in. I almost turned off the debate, Biden’s and her puerile rudeness was so annoying.
I would have liked the forum with Ryan and Biden standing-—the psychological edge that Ryan has with his stature and good looks would have given him an even bigger win. But that is why the leftist had them sit with an obnoxious feminist asking men to get “personal” about an abortion answer. She made me puke with her phony feminist remark about the whole abortion issue.
The Leftist tried to make Ryan look bad-—but they didn’t succeed. He held his ground ok and they looked like bratty, rude kids.
He did exactly what needed to be done. He allowed Biden to be a jerk (pretty much unamimous opinion) and came across as knowledgeable, polite and capable.
Indies will be won over. Great job, Paul!!
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