I'm getting tired of it and one day I'm just going to knock him on his ass.......(Im surprised I haven't already)
Too true, Art. In stark contrast to our common hope, expressed so many times after the first debate that "Super smart tea party Ryan will mop the floor with statist buffoon Biden."
Mastery of the finest Martial Arts helps little in mud wrestling.
This is why I'm so dour on the whole election.
We keep trying to sew silk purses out of the sow's ear reality that roughly half of the people in this country want people like Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, Axelrod, Rahm, Brown, SEIU etc "fighting" (people like us) "for them."
I saw a CNN comments section which was mostly "tax them till they bleed" comments, products of our gubbmint schools no doubt.
Even if we fixed the schools today, we wouldn't see those voters until after 2030.
If indeed the cause is lost (and I pray the Lord saves us in spite of ourselves), then the historical corollary might be that Reagan was our Fort Sumpter, Bush/Gore 2000 was Gettysburg, and we're now in the wilderness campaign.
I too noticed the waterglass and each time was concerned for the constriction of Ryan's throat. From my observations of public speakers this is the first symptom of increasing stress and several times I felt Ryan's voice was losing its projection. It would not surprise me to find that Biden also noted the frequency of Ryan's waterglass and seized on this chink in the armor. Perhaps Paul had read Sun Tzu and gave this head-fake to goad Joe into a overly-aggressive posture. If so, I believe it worked and the post-debate discussion is as much about Joe's demeanor than the content of the discussions.
My enduring concern throughout this election season is the temperament of women - most are driven by superficial issues and often go for the Slick-talker. Here is where I feel this debate may be most significant: the women I know are confrontation-averse mostly due to their fear being bullied and demeaned in the manner of Joe Biden. Surely Paul had numerous opportunities to strike at Obama/Biden's carotids but maintaining a civil discourse may well be realized as the most effective weapon brought to bare at this moment.
Paul Ryan is an honorable man and I am gratified that he did not lower himself to the tone and demeanor that Joe Biden exemplified last night.
No one will remember what was said here....but they will remember the monkey in the left-hand TV screen. Women especially were disgusted by the antics of Biden, who looked like an ill-mannered third-grader who craved attention.
I’m surprised at the reaction to the debate. I thought this was even more lopsided than Romney vs. Obama. Ryan was clear, concise, gentlemanly, and made excellent points. Ryan showed himself to be a competent alternative and did no damage. He was more appealling to women per the dials. Romney and Ryan are very successfully gathering up the undecides and moderates with their strategy. Ryan has been debating goofs like Biden in the house for a long while. A routine win for Ryan
one ineffectual performance (and may I add) again.
My biggest disappointment of the night was Ryan passing up the perfect opportunity to mention Obama’s Las Vegas trip on the heels of the terrorist attack.
bttt
“, so should the Republicans make Benghazi a metaphor for the failures of the Obama administration. That metaphor applies to the failure to recover from the great recession. It is worse than a metaphor of incompetence, it is a metaphor for epic fail.”
I love reaing your posts, but the fact of the matter is that all of this administrations lies regarding the attack don’t matter to the people getting “free stuff.” They will always vote for the ones giving it away
Really good analysis. thanks.
Do you mean he "seemed" credible....?
As in how a Robert DeNiro made me really believe he was a bus driver when I was watching "A Bronx Story" the other night.
A VP debate is pretty much the same warm bucket of spit that the VP job is. Even if one totally trounced the other, it is unlikely to have made a a major difference in the overall race.In reality, the main goal at a VP debate is to do no harm to the ticket. Looked at from that viewpoint, Ryan did his job. It can be argued who "won" the debate, but it would take a deranged lunatic (or the media matters paid posters here, but I repeat myself) to claim that Ryan did any harm to Romney last night.
Biden's performance is a little cloudier on that score. He probably did quite well among his base, and if (as many assume) his goal was to fire them up, he succeeded. However, the constant interruptions, and more to the point, the laughing and smirking, is already being used against Obama/Biden. Will the devastating web ad put out by the RNC get actual airtime play?
What you have left are the people not interested in the ideas and subjects but the people themselves and how they come across and Americans do not like jerks.
What the media had built up as a loveable gaff master came across as a nasty, overbearing, disrespectful bully. He lost the fan club vote....but worse than that he lost a lot of women who were going to vote dem on principles, he cut into vote already in their pocket.
Your assessment of Ryan’s performance is right on the mark. I thought exactly the same things and cringed at the lost opportunities, and there were many, as you yourself observe. In the end, I think that Ryan did not so much win as Biden lost.