Posted on 10/17/2012 8:20:54 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Obama did better than the last debate but he certainly did not win this one, he simply lost by a lesser margin than the last debate. And the Benghazi debacle did severe damage.
That's a win in Liberal-land.
Then O says he has streamlined legal immigration and there are more agents on the border than ever... huh???
“In my estimation, last nights debate was a draw.”
How can it be a “draw,” idiot Ed, when the Kenyan bastard lied continuously from beginning to end?
He never said one truth.
But then again, it sounds like you are a liar too and wouldn’t know the truth if it stepped on your face.
On FoxNews last night immediately after the debate, they showed the official time and Obama actually got 4 minutes more time but somewhere in between last night and today it got changed to 2 minutes more time for Obama. I have seen it several times that it was 2 minutes more today.
Most of the comments are that he won the debate against his first debate. So he is a WEINER.
Most of them voted for him on ‘08 though.
The fact that Mitty was debating two opponents - Bammy and a supposedly neutral but antagonistic and ugly moderator - made Mitty look like an underdog under attack by both the president and a corrupt media. That it was two against one and Mitty still managed to fight them to a draw, if not outright win (which I think he did) makes him seem that much more cool, collected and in command.
Corrupt Candy trying to save Bammy’s bacon on Libya was just the icing on the cake - an unadorned and unspinnable episode of blatant, outrageous media bias for all to see.
It was a disaster for the 0 campaign, despite the yowling and howling of the liberal lapdogs. The very same lapdogs, by the way, who were charmed by Biden’s mugging and smirking.
You mean the "unbiased moderator"?
Thanks,...got to work thru that one.
When scoring debates, lies only count against the speaker when their opponent refutes them in the context of the debate.
Scored as a debate, one could easily justify the conclusion it was a draw. The aftermath, though, with Crowley’s intervention proved to be a lie on Obama’s behalf, probably puts it in the record books as a win for Romney (with an asterisk) on pure debate-scoring grounds.
As a political event, it went to Romney as both the Fox and MSNBC focus groups show. And that tilt will become more apparent as the number of lies Obama told becomes more apparent. I watched online via the BBC — I had some sort of glitch when connecting to C-SPAN — and bounced between actually watching and looking at the NYTimes “live fact-check” which, amazingly considering the source, supported Romney on every point, except for posting a stupid graphic of the $5 trillion dollar static scoring of Romney’s tax proposals with no accounting for the $25K deduction cut-off as if the cut in rates without broadening the tax base were the sum content of his proposals.
Romney was able to lay out substantive answers on the economy and that is what the focus group said would determine who they were voting for.
What specifics did Obama lay out to address: the 23 mill unemployed people, $16 trillion in debt, $4 gas, no budget in 3 years, the poverty rate at it’s highest since 1960’s, median incomes dropping 7.3% since taking office, 47 million on food stamps, and the doubling of the deficit?
Those were the questions that the focus groups and the undecideds were looking for and did not get from Obama and what they did get from Romney.
Ought to show up on many threads on the topic....
Should be a thread starter,....
See link at post #28.
Obama was awake this time, and if he ‘won’ it was by being more petulant, angry, agressive, and a liar.
But that is not the same as ‘persuasive’.
He can spin the BS all he wants but people know his record now.
Were there two debates last night?
The one I watched on c-span showed to me that Obummo did show up and talked back to the canddidate-in-charge.
Perhaps I should have changed channels and watched the other debate on MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, et. al. Might have been less one sided than the one I saw!
“Im still laughing at the guy who said, Obamas been bullshitting the people and the word bullshitting got thru unedited!”
When that guy started talking I turned to my wife and said they better put this guy on a tape delay. You could see he was building to an emotive obscenity and he delivered beautifully.
It was done beautifully and so fit the whole debate scene and the media headlines ....
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