Posted on 11/01/2012 9:47:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
More than 1,000 New Jersey gas stations are unable to sell fuel due to power outages and delivery problems, according to the head of one of the state's gas station associations.
Sal Risalvato, executive director of the New Jersey Gasoline-Convenience-Automotive Association, which represents 1,500 stations, told us by phone that 75 percent of his members have shut down fueling.
"There's difficulty getting supply from the pipeline, to distribution centers, to the trucks, to the gas stations, and then the final hurdle, getting it into car. So there [are] difficulties along every point."
Many stations don't have power to pump gas. Those with power are pumping fuel until they run out. Although some refineries remain shut down, they still have fuel in storage. But trucks are having trouble making it to the stations because roads remain blocked by trees and flooding.
Additionally, there are more cars on the road since many bus and train lines remain suspended.
Risalvato said none of his clients are gouging.
"There's nobody rationing, when a retailer has gas, pumping until has no more."
Two separate people we talked to today, who otherwise have power, said that gasoline was their main concern, in part because it's fueling generators.
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Thanks Libstripper, I’ll have to check into that. We had propane 12 years ago when we moved here, and switched to natural gas after the lines were run to my neighborhood. From a prepper perspective, I kinda wish I hadn’t.
Can a gasoline generator be easily converted to gas, or is that not practical?
1. You came here through the one end of the state where travel was impacted least, and
2. By your own admission, you'll barely have enough fuel to get home.
You can go out on almost any highway in New Jersey today and find thousands of people on line at gas stations, most of whom thought this was all just "overhyped."
:-)
There are ways around that. I won't own a vehicle that I can't siphon a gallon of gas from for the lawnmower.
1/0 copper cable a couple of feet long gets rid of the baffle. Or has so far.
/johnny
In a word........no.
Daughter at her gate at Newark airport. Just in time.
According to the state constitution, the governor has full power to suspend or remit all fines and forfeitures as well as to pardon all sentences except those for treason and offenses that have led to impeachment.
There is no reason why he should resign or be removed for exercising his constitutional powers, especially in an emergency situation.
That was exactly what I was thinking. We lived outside of Philadelphia during the gas lines and it was horrible. My husband used to trade cars with me every other day so that I could sit in the gas lines while he went to work. It was a cold snowy winter in Philadelphia, and his car was a Camaro, which was terrible to drive on the ice. He had a locking gas cap on his car and the first time he sent me, he forgot to give the key to the gas cap.
IIRC thee is also a law in NJ you can’t fill your own tank, an attendant must fill it.
Can a gasoline generator be easily converted to gas, or is that not practical?
I'd really be interested in knowing the same thing. Along with how to quiet it down. When we've had to use ours for power outages, we did not run it continuously. We'd just run it enough to keep the essentials going, like the furnace and the freezer and the fridge. We bundled up, got what food we needed out of the fridge, got it cold enough again, and shut the thing off to save gas.
Ours is only a 4,000 watt one, but it's good on gas and takes care of the basics. It is noisy however.
Thanks for the tip, Johnny. I hadn’t considered that. I have a few feet of old oxyacetylene hose that I use for siphoning, it’s thinner and sturdier than anything else I have used, but I sure couldn’t get it past the baffles.
Will see if your copper cable idea can defeat them (thanks alot, trial lawyers, or whoever made them mandatory!).
We usually have 3 or 4 cars in the driveway when we are in ‘hunker down’ mode, and I would like to be able to rely on them as a fuel source for the generator.
/johnny
Disconnect the fuel line at the engine, use the car’s electric fuel pump to fill jerrycans.
Be careful, of course!
I hope the idiots on here who were irrationally poo pooing the storm are stuck in those lines.
“Along with how to quiet it down.”
Some ideas here: http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=209390
One that I’ve seen many times is to dig a hole and put the generator in it, so the dirt absorbs a bunch of the sound. The armed forces apparently do that a lot. Mufflers (like from a motorcycle) are also suggested, as is a “doghouse” to enclose the thing. Note, making the doghouse out of materials that don’t deaden sound doesn’t appear to help much - but if the inside walls are covered with rubber or fiberboard, this helps. Then the exhaust is the weak point, hence the muffler.
“Can a gasoline generator be easily converted to gas, or is that not practical?”
http://www.propane-generators.com/
You can purchase kits online to run your generator on propane, but I believe that if an engine is not specifically designed to run on propane it can be ruined. I think the propane causes the engine to burn hotter. I inquired about this specifically from Generac and that’s what they told me.
It's my understanding that's a relatively minor process - replacing a part in the carburator (or perhaps the entire carburator), and attaching the inlet fuel line to a propane fitting rather than the gasoline tank.
I have an old 5000 watt Coleman powered by a 10 hp Tecumseh engine with a “muffler” the size of a pack of cigarettes. If I fire it up near a cemetery, there’ll be a repeat of “The Night of the Living Dead.”. Fortunately, I’m several hundred feet from my nearest neighbor.
Don’t be shocked if Romney carries New Jersey.
These folks will show up to vote out all the incumbents.
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