[justiceseeker93]

Obomba won [Michigan] by 16 points in 2008.

Don't forget that the McCain campaign pulled out of Michigan early as the MSM was exulting. That had a huge impact on the margin.

Also, the Romney name means a lot in Michigan, especially to older voters who remember Dad favorably.

Looks like Axelrod will be shaving his moustache - but, then again, can you believe anything he says or promises?

[cripplecreek]

2008 was a “historic” election and can’t really be used to predict a trend. Also as you said, there was John McCain’s insulting treatment of Michigan.

Personally I think any republican who acted as if they want our votes would be in a similar position as Romney. After all, Romney didn’t primary particularly well here. (10 points over McCain in 08 vs a tie with Santorum in 2012)

What it really comes down to is the whole state drifting to the right. Even the pro union ballot proposals appear to be losing now.

[LS]

Pure hunch---no evidence at all---but I do think that at a certain point a bandwagon effect kicks in and some people want to ride the winner. I think MN, MI, PA, even OR are starting to feel this. At the same time, it does depress the other side's vote.

I won't be surprised at all if MI or even MN fall. OR? Yeah.

[SunkenCiv]

:’) McCain’s campaign spent money where he wasn’t beaten before he started, and there’s no reason to fault that, although plenty of people around here still bitch about McCain and how he was someway put into the nomination through skullduggery. It’s ridiculous.

We’re very lucky, really, that GWB dismembered him in the 2000 primary season — otherwise we’d probably have wound up with President Gore. Imagine, John McCain tied in Florida, with the Gore fraud machine operating the way it did against the integrity of US democracy? Gore would have been POTUS on 9/11/2001...