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To: over3Owithabrain

From what I saw in NOVA yesterday - and I was at the polls all day - it is the electorate. The majority of women want abortion and big government. 95% of blacks would never vote against a black person no matter what type of failure he is. New immigrants are a massive amount of the electorate here, and they apparently vote Dem. I wasn’t sure of this, because so many are small business owners, but they identify with Obama.

Being a Dem is the easy path - in education, journalism, law, entertainment, government and the trades. That is what gets you handouts, positions and perks. People don’t believe that personal responsibility and self-reliance will get you ahead. Very sobering. I was lucky enough to come of age in the Reagan era. I took it for granted. I love America’s founding principles, but I now realize that the country as a whole is not going to reflect them.


60 posted on 11/07/2012 2:02:29 AM PST by Belle22
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To: Belle22
Yep. This is the problem. We have to stop kidding ourselves that America is a right-of-center country. It simply isn't anymore.

We didn't lose because of fraud.

We didn't lose because of bad turnout by conservatives. FReepers who say that are ascribing to themselves wayyyyy more importance than they deserve.

We didn't lose because we didn't focus on the right states.

We didn't lose because of a bad candidate.

We didn't lose because of a bad election team.

We lost because a message of individual liberty and personal responsibility simply is not what the typical American believes in anymore.

What the typical American believes in is a false empathy that equates handouts to indigent and stupid people with "compassion," and a President who "relates" to their problems.

What a typical American believes in is a completely feminized, unprincipled co-op, where the concepts of duty, honor, and country, are simply words.

Greedy businessmen have opened our country to refugees from a third world shithole for the sake of lowering their costs by displacing them to taxpayers.

All of us -- liberals and conservatives alike -- have literally allowed the lunatics to take over the asylum so that people who in previous generations were regarded as mentally ill are now destroying many of our basic institutions, because no one would speak up and say, "wait, sexual deviancy is not, by definition, a normative behavior, neither the addiction to or recreational use of drugs is healthy, families with only one parent (by design) are not acceptable, and the portrayal of sexual and violent pornography as harmless is ultimately destructive."

We have been weakened by prosperity. Now we will discover through adversity if the America of our fathers and grandfathers can be revived.

84 posted on 11/07/2012 2:29:16 AM PST by FredZarguna (I'm sorry, General Washington. We owed you and the men at Valley Forge so much more than this.)
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To: Belle22

It’s hard for me to figure out the truth. Is it the electorate, fraud, a mix or what? I agree the fraud thing sounds like a good angle, but I also agree with your comments that it could be the electorate filled with socialists coming out to vote for socialism. Period.


97 posted on 11/07/2012 2:42:54 AM PST by Mozilla
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