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1 posted on 11/08/2012 8:32:05 AM PST by Al Gore Vidal
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I personally don’t know anyone who sat out.


2 posted on 11/08/2012 8:34:52 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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I had severe problems with Romney. However, in the end, I pulled the lever for him. For me, someone who is paying attention, four more years of Obama was too high a cost. However, the majority of those who had problems with Romney’s past, personality, or even his faith, do not look at things as closely and decided that there was not enough difference to make it worth the effort of voting. They believed that four more years of Obama would not be so bad. Besides, they have been inundated with “The economy is getting better, we just need more time.”


4 posted on 11/08/2012 8:38:35 AM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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I didn’t vote for Mittens whose domestic and foreign policy views where to the LEFT of Obama’s.

I couldn’t vote for someone who wasn’t a conservative. Whether he won or lost didn’t matter much to me - as nothing much would change over the next four years, no matter who won the White House.

Mitt Happens is a genuinely nice guy, but nice doesn’t win elections and he didn’t excite me.


5 posted on 11/08/2012 8:39:28 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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I hated Romney in the primaries, but voted for him with enthusiasm.

Yet I wonder if there weren’t some evangelicals who had little enthusiasm for the choice between the Mormon and the Moron, and stayed home.


6 posted on 11/08/2012 8:41:23 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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From what I've read here,MANY evangelicals stayed home because Romney wasn't "conservative enough" (shades of 2008). Why they did that when the alternative was four more years of Obama,I have no explanation for.Maybe Romney wasn't Reagan,but do they REALLY think they've got a better deal now with America's first gay president?

I'm starting to wonder if Christ himself came down from Heaven to run for president if they'd stay home because "his hair is too long and he looks like a hippie!".....

7 posted on 11/08/2012 8:42:13 AM PST by massmike (The choice is clear in November: Romney or Caligula!)
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The biggest reason for the Romney loss was the game was fixed,remember your dealing with a Chicago hack.
JFK was the first unduly elected Obama was the second.
Dead people do vote.


8 posted on 11/08/2012 8:42:56 AM PST by Vaduz
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He got my vote. I knew he was by no means a conservative but I didn't feel the hold my nose and vote for him anyway like I did with McCain. Especially after I saw him in the debates.

As to the what went wrong I still don't think any conservative candidate could have won this. At best the perfect candidate would have pulled out a close contested win. There are no more Reagan/Scoop Jackson/Zell Miller Democrats these days. Moonbat liberalism is now the mainstream thanks to the MSM and the dumbing down of America. Used to be stupid people didn't vote. Now they do.

9 posted on 11/08/2012 8:43:04 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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I don’t buy that BS. Conservatives are not stupid people.


10 posted on 11/08/2012 8:44:17 AM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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If any conservative did not vote Romney because he was not a true rock-ribbed conservative or because he was a Mormon they are truly insane be queen they have allowed the country to be taken by Obama.
12 posted on 11/08/2012 8:45:27 AM PST by R0CK3T
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I did not vote for Mitttens.

I recall how he systematically destroyed all the viable conservative candidates with lies and slanders -— from Thompson in the first primary to everyone else in the second.

He had paid minions who went forth and slandered good men.

All while smiling like the white washed tomb that he is — clean and white shirt with a rotten, corrupt, heart inside.

The RINO establishment assumed we’d come along because Obama is so bad. Well, they were almost right. I had misgivings.

But it’s time to stop taking half measures. If it takes our country getting destroyed by Obama for actual conservatives to rise from the ashes, then that’s what it has to do.


13 posted on 11/08/2012 8:47:09 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (I will never vote for Romney. Ever.)
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I think you will see some stories coming out in the next few days with some fishy voting counts.

Obama performed extremely well in some deep red counties in swing states which went for GOP by 3 to 1 in 2010.

Obama lost about 10 million votes. And Republicans did not sit out. Their votes were tallied to Obama. Nothing else explains it.


14 posted on 11/08/2012 8:48:10 AM PST by nhwingut (Get out & Vote as if your life was on the line. Because it is.)
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Different groups of people can be blamed for the election night fiasco, but did anyone really stop to blame the GOP for running out a candidate who is not really a conservative?

If they would stop messing around give the people a true conservative, he/she would get elected.

16 posted on 11/08/2012 8:50:02 AM PST by ducttape45
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I voted for Tom Hoefling, a conservative. I know I did the right thing.

I have no complaint about liberals who voted for either Obama or Romney. That's what they're supposed to do.

As long as someone voted for his favorite candidate, I think he did the right thing.

The rest was in God's hands.

17 posted on 11/08/2012 8:50:12 AM PST by Tau Food (Praise God. Trust God.)
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Not all of us live in states where our votes matter ...


18 posted on 11/08/2012 8:51:45 AM PST by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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Purist are the same people who argue all day about the number of angels that will fit on a pin head. You can never count on them, they will always splinter off with a different Cristian church on the next corner or try the Constitution party or some such other dead end. They simply do not understand politics and how a party system works. I point out the two non-senators who talked about rape abortions as examples. Too ignorant of Politics to understand the art of what to say in the environment of a Liberal Press.
19 posted on 11/08/2012 8:51:50 AM PST by pwatson
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Romney is a liberal Republican and many conservatives wont vote for a liberal under any circumstances regardless of party affiliation. Looking at the vote totals more closely in many states, folks like me, just did not vote for the top of the ticket..here in Montana I figure at least 15000 conservatives refused to vote for Romney. The voter initiative saying Montana's could not be forced by the federal government to buy health insurance got 15000 votes more than R/R and parental notification and illegal alien measures passed with more than 65000 votes than R/R could get. The conservatives were out there the GOP just could not get them to vote for their candidate..
20 posted on 11/08/2012 8:52:12 AM PST by montanajoe
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I left the Prepublican party in 2007 when I realized the moderates were in control.

I still voted for Romney. Conservatives who didn’t made a mistake, in my opinion. I don’t think we really know yet exactly what happened.

America just asked for four more years of decline and stagnation. I don’t know why we did that.

Romney would have opened up the energy industry, which would lowered oil prices and created a lot of jobs. That’s more important at this time than the social issues. I did notice an attitude from some that the election needed to be about them pesonally rather than the country. Another selfish and silly mistake in my opinion. But what’s done is done.

Now we will decline until we experience a complete financial and social collapse. That will probably take 10-15 years, and younger people are really screwed as they will find it very difficult to acquire wealth.

We older folks who planned will be in much better shape than those under 50. I went mostly Galt in 08 as it was obvious what was coming. I’ll stay that way now.

Americans just voted themselves a long trip down a very hard road.


25 posted on 11/08/2012 8:54:49 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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I left the Prepublican party in 2007 when I realized the moderates were in control.

I still voted for Romney. Conservatives who didn’t made a mistake, in my opinion. I don’t think we really know yet exactly what happened.

America just asked for four more years of decline and stagnation. I don’t know why we did that.

Romney would have opened up the energy industry, which would lowered oil prices and created a lot of jobs. That’s more important at this time than the social issues. I did notice an attitude from some that the election needed to be about them pesonally rather than the country. Another selfish and silly mistake in my opinion. But what’s done is done.

Now we will decline until we experience a complete financial and social collapse. That will probably take 10-15 years, and younger people are really screwed as they will find it very difficult to acquire wealth.

We older folks who planned will be in much better shape than those under 50. I went mostly Galt in 08 as it was obvious what was coming. I’ll stay that way now.

Americans just voted themselves a long trip down a very hard road.


26 posted on 11/08/2012 8:54:49 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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You’re wrong. Everybody’s looking the wrong direction for a scapegoat here. Conservatives voted ... there just aren’t enough of us right now. The problem isn’t Romney, or Johnson, or Christie, or Coulter, or the GOP Establishment, or the Tea Party, or any of that ...

The problem is “the 47%” ... not that Romney made the comments, but that they are largely true. There are a lot of people that want that kind of government. There are a lot of people who live on unemployment, or SS disability, or welfare, or food stamps, or medicaid, or Obamaphones, or Social Security, or whatever. Those numbers are going up, not down, and every last one of them is a built-in Obama voter. They’ll vote themselves a pay raise every time.

You can paint that as a platform problem. Our positions don’t speak well to the dependent. You can paint that as a demographic problem. You can paint it as a messaging problem. Ultimately, it is an intrinsic problem with the electorate — one that is not only bad for the Republican Party, but one that is bad for the country overall ... and not one that is easily overcome.

The takers are starting to outnumber the makers. The tough part is going to be convincing the takers that there is a better way to live before Atlas shrugs. But, it can be done. I was hopeful that 4-years of Obama would shake it up enough to make the point, as 4-years of Carter did before. Apparently, it’ll take at least four more.

We made some headway — Obama lost 10M votes between ‘08 and ‘12. So, there are a lot of people that don’t like Obama’s way. But, the GOP also lost 2M between’08 and ‘12. So, we need to do a better job of convincing people that there is another way ... and we can get it done.

America gets the government it deserves. Maybe by 2016, it’ll deserve better.

SnakeDoc


28 posted on 11/08/2012 8:55:27 AM PST by SnakeDoctor (Texas survived one Obama term, and we'll survive another. The rest of you are screwed.)
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I know a some conservatives who didn't vote for Romney, some because they wouldn't vote for a Mormon, which they consider a cult. Others who wouldn't vote for a Massachusetts moderate, and some who just think the country is too far gone that it's better to just allow the collapse to happen on the democrats watch. I don't know how many conservatives didn't vote because of these three reasons and others but if you say 5% didn't vote for Reason 1, and 5% for Reason 2 and 5% for Reason 3. By themselves they might not sound like much, but put them together and you're up to 15%...
32 posted on 11/08/2012 8:57:50 AM PST by apillar
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