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To: Grampa Dave; sickoflibs; Condor51; stephenjohnbanker; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; GOPJ; ...
It's becoming crystal clear why Obama seemingly "screwed-up" at the crucial first prez debate---giving Romney a huge opening (or so it seemed).

O's debate screwup was no accident. Canny Obama and his cunning, sinister crew knew then that O would win...... no matter what Romney did or said. B/c the WH orders had already gone out----their massive voter fraud operation was already in place.

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REFERENCE mark o'malley excerpt: Every campaign, of course, believes it’s going to win. Obama’s team, however, conveys such a visceral sense of self-confidence that even protestations to the contrary take on air of comically profane absurdity......

Here's....Axelrod’s understated way of saying that he thinks the election is already over. . .

“The (Romney camp has) this fantasy that the debates will come and the dam will break like it did in 1980,” Axelrod said. “I think they are delusional.”

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Clearly the sinister Axelrod knew the outcome even before the debates began.

Axelrod: “The (Romney camp) didn’t give people anything to grab on to, and they allowed us to define him before he could define himself,” Axelrod says of Romney.

SAY WHAT? Early on, O's campaign spent an astounding $300 million to tarnish Bain/Romney-----with little or no effect. Romney kept climbing in the polls----virtually every poll had Romney ahead.

Make no mistake---massive voter fraud took place---the Ohaha connivers were confident of victory b/c they were micromanaging the fraud from Day One.

15 posted on 11/12/2012 5:03:02 AM PST by Liz ("Come quickly, I'm tasting the stars," Dom Perignon)
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To: NYer; The Mayor; Sun; Salvation
THE OBAMA WRAP With the flawed admin of Ohaha, America has witnessed the consequences of a generation inculcated with moral relativity and situation ethics. They clearly see themselves as "deconstructionists"----savagely committed to tearing down America's traditions.

Every manaical official govt act is dedicated to chipping away at the bulwark of American freedoms.

They are a virulent anti-American plague of religion haters.......vacant, surly Me-First humanoids who worship at The Church of Whatever Works For Me.

Cadres of self-absorbed punks squatting in govt are clearly disturbed---obsessed with religious cleansing and kicking so/con Repubs to the curb.

The Ohaha savages duped the citizenry, led us over a multi-trillion dollar deficit cliff, into massive corrupt bailouts, and atrocities like amnesty.

Their motto: "Everything For Us--Nothing For You."

That same generation inculcated with moral relativity and situation ethics has segued into The Entitlement Generation---better known as "Pay Me--I'm a Victim.

We need to remember that the Obamanoids are ruthless predators w/ no empathy for others and no remorse, anti-social psychopaths who recognize no moral boundaries--aggressively going after what they want, irregardless of the consequences to others.

These people are even scarier in triumph, when they've clearly mocked democracy and stolen the election

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Paraphrasing Saul Alinsky----the author of evil anti-religious satanism......"they do not have a fixed truth -- truth to them is relative and changing..... they are free from the shackles of dogma."

18 posted on 11/12/2012 5:05:06 AM PST by Liz ("Come quickly, I'm tasting the stars," Dom Perignon)
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To: Liz; Impy; AuntB; PhilCollins; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued; ...
RE :”It's becoming crystal clear why Obama seemingly “screwed-up” at the crucial first prez debate-—giving Romney a huge opening (or so it seemed).
O’s debate screwup was no accident. Canny Obama and his cunning, sinister crew knew then that O would win...... no matter what Romney did or said. B/c the WH orders had already gone out——their massive voter fraud operation was already in place...”

My theory on this one is that O threw the first debate on purpose acting passive and not challenging Mitt and letting him dominate the stage, and it really looked good for Mitt at the time a clear win.
Why?? Because prior to that debate expectations were low for Mitt and high for O based on polling and O being the more well known POTUS. So Romney only had to hold his own to look good anyway.
So by O holding back in the the first debate the expectations for the following debates were more balanced, and then Obama went on the offensive putting Romney on the defensive in a number of cases.

Example : If you recall Romney said he was for a ‘path to citizenship’ in one of those last two debates. That was a defensive move and as you see it didnt get him any Hispanic votes,.

remember Romney dropped the whole Benghazi issue after the second debate, I posted here at the time I thought that was a mistake.

25 posted on 11/12/2012 5:42:30 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: Liz; GilGil; Paisan; Safrguns; Diana in Wisconsin; patriot08; Reaganite Republican; ...
Agree with your conclusion, Liz, that the Obamatons knew that they held a trump card from the get-go with their massive fraud and cheating operations, including hacking the electronic vote counting devices in key counties in the swing states. And yes, that's why they were so darn cocky all through the campaign. After all, they were experienced at it, having used very similar shenanigans back in 2008 - although they probably would have squeaked through vs. McCain even if (hypothetically) things were pretty much clean. (Of course, no one in law enforcement had the guts to arrest and prosecute the sleazy perps of the fraud back then because the GOP acquiesced to it.)

For that very reason, the Romney campaign and the RNC should have been much more alert beforehand and should have drawn up some substantive vote integrity plan to combat the criminal corruption of the electoral process. In doing so, they could have used some assets unavailable to the GOP in 2008, like more GOP state administrations, attorneys general, and state secretaries of state in the targeted swing states.

But I don't think Zero "took a dive" in the first debate intentionally. He could have been overconfident or even under the influence of a drug or drugs. His poor performance that night did nothing to help his chances. But as it turned out, it didn't destroy his chances as it should have if the electoral procedure was reasonably honest and aboveboard.

33 posted on 11/12/2012 6:41:48 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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