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Petraeus helps whistleblower's unstable twin in nasty custody fight
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Posted on 11/13/2012 6:31:23 AM PST by RummyChick

Gen. David Petraeus sure loved helping his lady friends.

While he was director of the CIA, Petraeus wrote a letter supporting the child-custody fight of the “psychologically unstable” twin sister of his close friend Jill Kelley — whose bombshell claims of being threatened by his lover led to the top spy’s resignation last week, sources told The Post.

The four-star general’s letter to the court — written in the past two months — supported a motion to overturn a ruling made nearly a year earlier by a judge who resoundingly denied custody to Kelley’s sister, Natalie Khawam, because of serious reservations about her honesty and mental stability, court records show.

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To: RummyChick

"Natalie Khawam (from left), David Petraeus, Scott and Jill Kelley, and Holly Petraeus. Jill Kelley has been identified as the woman who received threatening emails from Paula Broadwell, shown upper left. In this 2010 photo, they are posing on the Kelley�s front lawn in Tampa, Fla., during the Gasparilla parade"

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/world/congress-demands-answers-178804721.html

What is with that freaky head tilt thing? And I thought the twins from "The Shining" were weird

51 posted on 11/13/2012 7:13:58 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: lonestar

You are missing the bigger picture. A much bigger picture.

For example, here is one question. Why did Rove put up that picture of him and Paula.

One person asks

“Was Petraeus Passing Information to Rove Through Broadwell?”


52 posted on 11/13/2012 7:14:57 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: TexasCajun

GMTA - As Maxwell Smart would say, “missed it by that much”


53 posted on 11/13/2012 7:15:18 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: P.O.E.
It's in almost all their posed pictures

54 posted on 11/13/2012 7:17:07 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: petitfour

Linkedin: Wolfe served as Legislative Director & Counsel for members of Congress from 1999-2002.

Can’t open:
engagedmagazine.com

A Springtime Wedding in Georgetown ~ Natalie and Grayson engagedmagazine.com. read bio


55 posted on 11/13/2012 7:19:57 AM PST by maggief
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To: RummyChick
I still can’t fathom the game plan here.

How about "every man for himself"?

56 posted on 11/13/2012 7:20:39 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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To: ConservativeDude

Most likely, the letter was drafted by the woman’s lawyer, Petraeus agreed with its contents and signed it. Whether he should have done this is one thing, but its consumption of his time would have been minimal.

CIA Directors do have free time, just like everyone else. They go shopping, to movies, to sports events, etc. He might even golf.


57 posted on 11/13/2012 7:20:50 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: oldbrowser

“The media is out to destroy Patreaus. They must fear that as a witness he will say some things they do not want said.”

I agree. Unfortunately, he’s given them the ammunition to destroy him.


58 posted on 11/13/2012 7:23:06 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: EDINVA

It appears that Natalie now runs as a solo attorney according to a linked in Profile.


59 posted on 11/13/2012 7:28:13 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
It's freaking me out, I tells ya


60 posted on 11/13/2012 7:29:27 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: RummyChick
West Point's Broadwell looks similar to the USNA's Nowak.

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61 posted on 11/13/2012 7:33:43 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (Impeach the Liar.)
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To: P.O.E.
meanwhile Chuck Todd ‏@chucktodd Significant group of folks in WH pushing for Rice at State, but others feel Kerry deserves big slot, how idea of Pentagon popped up. But...
62 posted on 11/13/2012 7:33:49 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

This is one stinking kettle of fish from the get-go.


63 posted on 11/13/2012 7:35:14 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: P.O.E.

I explained the odd neck tilt on another thread, here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2958925/posts?page=22#22


64 posted on 11/13/2012 7:35:23 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Bread and Circuses; Everyone to the Coliseum!)
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To: RummyChick
The couple had mutually agreed to stop their illicit affair, knowing what they were doing was 'wrong', Col. Boyland said. But 'David and Paula were still in contact about Paula's dissertation.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2231747/David-Petraeus-scandal-Wife-Holly-furious-affair-Paula-Broadwells-father-reveals-details-emerge.html

She would need to be active have dissertation, no? I have not a clue what all this insanity is. Maybe she was a spook and dissertation could apply to that???

65 posted on 11/13/2012 7:35:56 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: RummyChick

All these people are total egomaniacs.


66 posted on 11/13/2012 7:36:26 AM PST by Cathy
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To: RummyChick

An unpaid social planner assigned to high-level military units overseas.

Really? Unpaid social planner?


67 posted on 11/13/2012 7:36:49 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Bread and Circuses; Everyone to the Coliseum!)
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To: MestaMachine

http://www.tampabay.com/news/military/macdill/petraeus-friend-jill-kelley-found-place-hosting-military-parties/1261272

http://www.businessinsider.com/all-of-the-lawsuits-against-jill-kelley-2012-11?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+businessinsider+%28Business+Insider%29

A judge ordered Kelley to sell her land holding company’s office building in downtown Tampa after Central Bank brought a foreclosure lawsuit against her and her husband. The Kelleys owed the bank nearly $2.2 million, according to court records.

The couple had an $11,000 judgement brought against them in a case that began in Pennsylvania.

Chase Bank sued the couple for indebtednes, Regions Bank sued the Kelleys for foreclosure and FIA Card Services brought a credit card case against the couple.

Business Insider tried to obtain copies of the various lawsuits but was told by Hillsborough County officials the request could not immediately be granted.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/all-of-the-lawsuits-against-jill-kelley-2012-11#ixzz2C7KVIwTi


68 posted on 11/13/2012 7:37:32 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Does anyone know why Paula was wearing a military outfit in the picture Rove tweeted back in June?


She is/was in the Reserves.


69 posted on 11/13/2012 7:40:55 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

That little patch of fur, has brought the mighty and powerful to their end more often than not.


70 posted on 11/13/2012 7:41:39 AM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: EDINVA

There might be a Holly factor in that letter. Even the best of friends do not know everything. The Petraeus family was only on Tampa about two years. Maybe they left with the illusion the Kelley family was as they appeared. It could have gone like this:

HP:
Dave, Jill called me today. Natalie’s ex is trying to get her son. She wants to know if you might write a letter for the court

DP:
What do they want me to say?

Further (and only speculating) what if that letter was the last nice thing DP did? What if further requests for any help were refused? Maybe a motive for revenge? Not saying that is what happened, only one avenue needing to be explored.

Such a scenario would not change the storyline. It would expose a trump card being held by another party.


71 posted on 11/13/2012 7:44:49 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: RummyChick
My guess is that Holly Petraeus asked her husband to write the letter. So he did it as favor to a family friend.

Holly was good friends with the two sisters because they were all active in aiding the social life at the Base.

72 posted on 11/13/2012 7:47:20 AM PST by what's up
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To: RummyChick

We are going to have to start using a score card with all these people involved.


73 posted on 11/13/2012 7:48:52 AM PST by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: RummyChick

I don’t watch Homeland so don’t know the reference but here is one synopsis from Facebook:

OK, so Petreus was having an affair with Broadwell, his truly devoted biographer. Kelley was having an affair with another general, Allen (probably). Broadwell aparently knew about it and Kelley was getting closer to Petreus. Noticing this, and probably fearing that she’d lose her man to this femme fatale, Broadwell starts sending harassing emails to Allen.

Allen gets freaked-out and contacts the shirtless-FBI agent, who had apparently, in a plot right out of Homeland, become obsessed with Kelley, and was sending her shirtless photo’s of himself before she ever told him about the harassing emails.

He notified the cyber-crime unti at the FBI who quickly noticed his Carrie-like antics from Homeland and told him to disasscoaite himself from the case. In another Homeland similarity, he continues to work the case on the periphery. even though told not to. Falsly believing the case has stalled, thinking that the FBI may be stalling on purpose to help President Obama, total right-wing nuttery worthy only of FOX (it certainly would have had no implications on the election which was determined by math, demographics and the mobilizing of voters in key swing-states), shirtless FBI agent contacts Eric Cantor’s office, who then callls the head of the FBI with shirtless FBI agent’s concerns.

So there you have it. Petreus is having an affair with Broadwell, Kelley is having an affair (probably) with Allen, Broadwell thinks Kelley is setting her sights on her beau, Petreus, so she harasses her, leading to Kelley turning to previously obsessed shirtless FBI agent for help. Shritless FBI agent gets told to stand down, but he won’t and in his right-wing zealotry, sends message to Republican majority House Leader, Cantor for help, since this is all about Obama (as is everything in too-far-gone right-wing world).

So that’s it. So far. Stay tuned.

And you thought Homeland was nutty.


74 posted on 11/13/2012 7:50:38 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: AndyJackson
Even CIA directors have personal lives and friends and family, and even CIA directors are allowed to provide character support for someone presenting a case in court.

Correct.

This story means nothing.

75 posted on 11/13/2012 7:51:12 AM PST by what's up
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Rught. Unpaid social planner. Hanging out around MacDill. Hanging out with CENTCOM big guys.

Since there may soon be an opening for the position of unpaid social planner I think I’ll go over to the gate and ask to go in to apply for the job.

I wonder if I’ll get through the gate? Maybe I’ll wear some baby doll outfits and turn my neck sideways. That may be code for I’m willing to ...


76 posted on 11/13/2012 7:53:04 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Very possible scenario ... but look at what’s happening !!

We are discussing a letter written by the CIA director to the court on behalf of a woman whose sister received threatening emails from his paramour, tripping off an FBI investigation... an investigation the key players and the White House knew about for weeks if not months.

In the meanwhile all attention is diverted from what happened at the consulate in Benghazi.


77 posted on 11/13/2012 7:56:57 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: RummyChick

Well, she graduated from West Point.


78 posted on 11/13/2012 7:57:57 AM PST by Royal Wulff
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To: RummyChick
Kelley is having an affair (probably) with Allen

I doubt it.

79 posted on 11/13/2012 7:58:44 AM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

It could be this is a warning shot to Allen. Play ball or we will take you down in this scandal.


80 posted on 11/13/2012 8:00:34 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

meanwhile is other bizarre news..
Mcafee claims they were trying to take him out.

http://www.theleafchronicle.com/usatoday/article/1702133?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Frontpage|s

He needs to hire him a Burn Notice type of guy to fix his problem.


81 posted on 11/13/2012 8:03:17 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
It's just an attempt for the Clintonites to make it "all about sex".

Very transparent.

82 posted on 11/13/2012 8:03:33 AM PST by what's up
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To: EDINVA

Yep. No one is discussing what is NOT in the news. The FBI search at Broadwell’s home because of what she said in Denver on Oct 26. Remarks made just 5 days after she was first interviewed by the FBI.


83 posted on 11/13/2012 8:05:23 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: RummyChick

Maybe I can help. All this happened in Florida. Didn’t Jeb Bush used to be the governor there?

Jeb 2016.

Where’s Crist?


84 posted on 11/13/2012 8:14:30 AM PST by DPMD
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To: nuconvert
I agree. Unfortunately, he’s given them the ammunition to destroy him.

I receive emails from friends which some might consider "inappropriate". Some I pass along, others I delete because of poor taste. Inappropriate is a subjective term and what is appropriate in the locker room is not appropriate at the dinner table.

They have now ensnared another general in the "probe" and I am starting to believe that all of this may be a prelude to some major downsizing of the military. After all if all of this alleged debauchery is taking place at the highest levels, can you imagine what might be going on in the ranks?

85 posted on 11/13/2012 8:24:16 AM PST by oldbrowser (Welcome to U.S.Zimbabwe)
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To: oldbrowser

If they’re all having affairs, they’re all handing out the ammunition.


86 posted on 11/13/2012 8:29:57 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: AndyJackson

I don’t consider it “idiotic” to question why and how a commander of a regional war and subsequently, CIA Director has the time and energy to devote to these extraneous activities.

And not just one commander, but also the commander who succeeded him.

If the character support were an isolated incident, of course that wouldn’t raise an eyebrow, but we’re talking 10’s of 1,000’s of emails, many with inappropriate content, and who knows how much time devoted to these “diversions”. And we’re also talking about an amazing lack of judgement.

It’s the big picture that sends up red flags, not one letter of character support.

I have family members on active duty and they have been barraged with all kinds of mandatory lectures, video conferences, and paperwork as of late pertaining to what are and are not appropriate relationships, harassment, etc. This has become a TOP issue in the military and to have the creme de la creme screwing it up sends a terrible message to those down the line.


87 posted on 11/13/2012 8:32:52 AM PST by randita
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To: RummyChick

I haven’t had time to dissect all this stuff. Can you quickly explain the partisan angles to all this back stabbing?


88 posted on 11/13/2012 8:36:10 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: RummyChick

People who cheat on their spouse are psychologically unstable.


89 posted on 11/13/2012 8:37:34 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: ConservativeDude

I think you’ve misunderstood the purpose of an appointed government office. The average person might think a director if the CIA is in his position for a reason involving the national security of the United States. In actuality, as career apparatchiks know, all such offices exist for their patronage value.

The President uses them to do favors for his friends, and the holders of the offices use their positions to do favors for their friends.


90 posted on 11/13/2012 8:44:09 AM PST by Tax-chick (Are you getting ready for the Advent Kitteh?)
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To: RummyChick; hoosiermama; penelopesire; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; LucyT; ...

Updates:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/nypost-both-gen-petraeus-and-gen-allen-intervened-on-behalf-of-jill-kellys-unstable-sister-in-custody-battle/

At around 10:45 ET the New York Post added far more to the story, including Petraeus’ actual statements, and more background on Khawam:

The father, Grayson Wolfe, was unable to see the child for more than a year, according to court documents. The judge overseeing the case cited Khawam with “outrageous conduct,” “bad faith litigation tactics,” and “illogical thinking,” awarding full custody to the father and socking the mom with $350,000 in legal fees.

“My wife and I have known Natalie for approximately three years, getting to know her while serving in Tampa, Florida, through our friendship with Dr. and Mrs. Scott Kelley,” Petraeus wrote in a letter introduced as part of a legal motion by Natalie Khawam’s lawyer.

(snip)

The New York Post has more on Allen’s involvement in the case:

A separate letter from Allen is dated Sept. 22, two days after the Petraeus letter. “Natalie clearly loves [child’s name] and cherishes each and every opportunity she has to spend time with him. She is a dedicated mother,” Allen wrote. “In light of Natalie’s maturity, integrity and steadfast commitment to raising her child, I humbly request your reconsideration of the existing mandated custody settlement,” Allen wrote. He said he got to observe the mother and child “at command social functions.”

(snip)


91 posted on 11/13/2012 10:06:08 AM PST by maggief
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To: sergeantdave

I can’t stop laughing over your Libyan goat post. Aint’ it the truth LOL...great post!


92 posted on 11/13/2012 10:14:51 AM PST by johnsmom (I must be dreaming 'cause this can't be real)
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To: RummyChick
My guess is there are a lot more important questions to be asked than what part Karl Rove might have played...if any. If Petraeus was trying to pass info, why would he have gone to useless Rove?

Was there a date on when Rove's picture was taken?

93 posted on 11/13/2012 10:30:34 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: RummyChick; MestaMachine

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/11/us-cia-petraeus-broadwell-idUSBRE8AA0EN20121111

“In August, Broadwell was promoted to lieutenant colonel, according to the Army.”


94 posted on 11/13/2012 11:19:21 AM PST by Seizethecarp (www.runwaykillzone.com "Defend the Runway Kill Zone (RKZ) from drones")
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To: RummyChick; MestaMachine
“Noticing this, and probably fearing that she’d lose her man to this femme fatale, Broadwell starts sending harassing emails to Allen.

"Allen gets freaked-out and contacts the shirtless-FBI agent, who had apparently, in a plot right out of Homeland, become obsessed with Kelley, and was sending her shirtless photo’s of himself before she ever told him about the harassing emails."

Excellent analysis overall, except for two points:

1. Broadwell's e-mails were clearly directed at Jill Kelley saying IIRC "Who do you think you are, parading around the base. Tone it down." That is not what Paula Broadwell would have written to the Centcom Commander!

2. The report today is that Jill Kelley knew the “shirtless FBI agent” previously from “an encounter” (some kind of investigation) and that the shirtless episode occurred in the past after that previous encounter, but before the recent events and Jill's involvement with Gen. Allen, IIRC.

So the FBI was drawn in by Jill Kelley, not Gen. Allen. So the excruciating irony is that Jill brought the house down on herself.

95 posted on 11/13/2012 11:39:51 AM PST by Seizethecarp (www.runwaykillzone.com "Defend the Runway Kill Zone (RKZ) from drones")
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; MestaMachine
The FBI search at Broadwell’s home because of what she said in Denver on Oct 26. Remarks made just 5 days after she was first interviewed by the FBI.

BINGO! Col. Broadwell looked extremely stressed and knew she was going down, along with the General. The subtext of her statement IMO was that if Petraeus knew that local militia prisoners were a possible proximate motive for the attacks then Petraeus knew he was a lie about the video to protect both Obama and himself and his wife's job.

IMO, Broadwell had gone batshit after talking to the FBI because when she said “you may not have heard this” and drops the prisoner bomb she obviously knew it was classified AND she was saying this just days after the 3rd debate on October 22 when Romney failed to take Obama down after Obama lied in the 2nd debate and Crowley backed him up.

96 posted on 11/13/2012 11:52:01 AM PST by Seizethecarp (www.runwaykillzone.com "Defend the Runway Kill Zone (RKZ) from drones")
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To: Seizethecarp
Col. Broadwell looked extremely stressed ...

She looked stressed and sounded worse. The sound of her voice and pattern of speech gave her away. She knew what she was saying. She was nervous.

I don't really care why she made those revelations. Only that she did. :)

97 posted on 11/13/2012 11:59:41 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: lonestar
Does anybody think it's strange that we ALREADY know more about all these people than we know about Barack Obama?

Welcome to Snookiville the USA, circa 2012...

the infowarrior

98 posted on 11/13/2012 12:04:52 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: Lee'sGhost

No, I can’t. Now John Kerry and and Senator Whitehouse are involved.

I have no idea whose side is winning in this.


99 posted on 11/13/2012 12:21:06 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Seizethecarp

No, out there somewhere is the claim that an email went to Allen from Broadwell about Jill...with the theory that Allen is the conduit to the FBI.


100 posted on 11/13/2012 12:24:26 PM PST by RummyChick
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