Posted on 11/15/2012 4:23:11 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
High-fiving one another over the latest superheated bit of nonsense over at "unskewedpolls.com"...? Sitting down in gleeful anticipation of yet another chirpy "Lunch Break!" with Dick Morris? Staring at Karl Rove's Magic Whiteboard, in rapt awe and worship?
Who knows? Who cares? ;)
Wow! Thank you so much for posting this article! It is spot on and is a must read for all!
Admit it, you’re a one-issue person. The fact that the very future of this republic was on the table meant nothing to you because, by gosh, you were going to vote on the abortion issue and that alone.
Well, so much for the Talking Horse Electorate.
I wonder who Wilbur Voted for?
The "very future of the Republic" is always "on the table" during every election.
There are people who believe that abortion is the defining moral issue of our time. You may think that sounds crazy, but is it more or less crazy than your suggestion that this country can't survive without a President Romney?
The 2012 election is over. As to the two most successful presidential candidates, one liberal won and one liberal lost. Maybe it's time that we forget the 2012 election and prepare a bit better for the next one.
I don’t think we can forget the 2012 election.
It’s a big assumption to think there will be another one. And if there is, do you think there’s a good chance that the electorate will be any more informed than those who voted this last round? Do you think we can improve upon these voters? Won’t there just be an increase in their numbers in 2016?
If you think things will be better in 2016, you’re much more optimistic than I.
P.S. You really, really think there was no difference between Obama and Romney?
That is such an asinine statement. We don't live in a democracy. Get that through your heads. Try to figure out what it actually means to live in a republic, then try to apply that to an individual vote.
amen
You have profoundly rationalized a profound rationalization
Your delusion is total
Mitt Romney is also a lawyer, he passed the bar and then got his license to practice in Michigan.
It’s a big assumption to think there will be another one. And if there is, do you think there’s a good chance that the electorate will be any more informed than those who voted this last round? Do you think we can improve upon these voters? Won’t there just be an increase in their numbers in 2016?
If you think things will be better in 2016, you’re much more optimistic than I.
P.S. You really, really think there was no difference between Obama and Romney?
Well, you're right. We shouldn't forget about the 2012 election. We should, however accept its outcome and try to learn from it.
I am 99% confident that there will be another election. I can't say how well-informed the voters in the next election will be, but they will know a lot more than you or I know now about events between now and then.
There were, of course, differences between Obama and Romney, but It was very unclear to me what Romney was promising. He has a very liberal background, but he seemed intent on masquerading as a severe conservative. I think he was inauthentic and I think that the voters saw through his impersonation, but many didn't know what to make of him. He seems like a nice man, but a bit strange. Anyway, I don't want to go on badmouthing him. It's time to unite behind going after Obama.
Will you be ready for the next election?
Good for you. God Bless President Virgil Goode!
At this point I think I will just watch what happens. Events over the next four years will determine whether I ever bother to enter a voting booth again.
I’m glad, though, that there are optimists such as you.
Doctors and businessmen are increasingly getting joint program J.D.s. It’s a smart thing to do.
Sure. But the hope was that he'd concentrate on economics, hold steady on "social and cultural conditions," and provide a good example. As politics goes, that may or may not have been an unreasonable hope as far as Romney goes but it's about the best we can do. Certainly, I'd have been happier with Bush if held steady on social issues and put more into good management and fiscal issues.
Most Americans don't like their bosses and have trouble with landlords and creditors. Talking about one's business experience is not usually a good way to win them over.
I guess not.
Many, like me, voted for Romney despite our relative poverty (I am in the lower middle class) and despite the fact that Obama's social program could benefit us financially. On the other hand, many wealthy people who stood to gain from Romney's promises of lowered capital gains taxes pulled their levers for Obama. Homo economicus is not as powerful as is our humanity. We Americans care about higher things.
That is also true, and Romney alienated voters with the "47%" talk.
Where were the Republicans who were either hot or cold? During the nomination process, each of the compelling, colorful Republican options, ranging from Herman Cain to Michele Bachmann, was thrown into the GOP dumpster by establishmentarians who were convinced that instead, voters needed to be lectured about statistics and given free copies of the Constitution.
C'mon. What is Bob thinking? Those candidates shot themselves in the foot -- again and again.
As an Evangelical values voter, I felt like I was the dirty family secret asked to come into the "big tent" through the side flap. In the end, I voted for Romney, but many people like me voted for the Democrats because at least the Democrats had a relatable message about compassion and mercy. Or, in many cases, they decided to stay home and spend the day praying to God for strength. At least God, unlike the Republicans, will never forget us or be ashamed of us.
My first reaction was: I'm not an Anglo-Saxon, but I don't complain about it or make a lot about being an outsider. But there is some sense here. Romney couldn't shake the "elitist" "rich guy" thing.
Selwyn Duke noted, as I've been thinking as well, that ethnic minorities have only one reason to vote for Republicans: social conservatism, not worship of the U.S. Constitution or a flood of economic numbers that are, when all is tallied, still just numbers. As a member of that sought-after class of people known as Latinos/Hispanics/people-of-color/call-us-what-you-will, I could not agree more with what Duke wrote. I voted for Mitt Romney because he stood up for traditional marriage and against abortion -- had he talked only about states' rights, due process, and lowering unemployment, I would have voted for Obama.
Okay, but why's he run down the Constitution so much? Isn't it part of "traditional American values"?
Anyway, this isn't a bad article about the election.
If you think your hands are clean you are sorely mistaken.
People will pay with their lives, including the unborn, because of people like you pretending to “keeping their hands clean”. Those “clean hands” just reelected the most determined person to kill the unborn that has ever held the office. And in the face of that you voted “present”. Some courage.
I now believe O had literally no campaign operation b/c they had the whole thing fixed from the get go. Oh sure---they went through the motions--but it was all faked.
You've just reminded me a of a scene from the 1990 movie "The Grifters" (based on the 1963 novel by Jim Thompson) about a young con artist, his mother and his lover -- all of whom make a living out of cheating people.
In one scene, lover Myra Langtrey (Annette Bening) tells boyfriend Roy Dillon (John Cusak) the "long con" plan (a type of wire fraud) she and her old lover Cole pulled off on unsuspecting businessmen. They would rent out luxury office space (desperate for commercial tenants) and have it cheaply outfitted with front office staff and computers, the semblance of legitimate activity. The con was to tell "marks" (potential victims) that they had a bank of supercomputers in the back room which performed lightning-quick calculations (a "seven second delay") which would give savvy investors advance knowledge of which stocks to buy or sell. Myra's job was to bring in unsuspecting marks and sell them on the business, and extract a large up-front investment from them (in cash) on the spot. Cole would tantalizingly point to the door behind which the "supercomputers" lay (the door concealed a big empty room full of dust and spare bits of drywall) and offer to show the mark the equipment, and Myra would say "Oh, he couldn't possibly be interested in that," until the mark said, "Never mind, I'll take your word for it, here's the money."
A campaign run by a bunch of professional grifters.
Back in the 1980s it was a tasteful store that sold sportswear -- sort of a cross between Orvis and Brooks Brothers.
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