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U.N. to Seek Control of the Internet
Weekly Standard ^ | Nov 26, 2012 | BY DANIEL HALPER

Posted on 11/26/2012 1:16:07 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Next week the United Nations' International Telecommunications Union will meet in Dubai to figure out how to control the Internet. Representatives from 193 nations will attend the nearly two week long meeting, according to news reports.

"Next week the ITU holds a negotiating conference in Dubai, and past months have brought many leaks of proposals for a new treaty. U.S. congressional resolutions and much of the commentary, including in this column, have focused on proposals by authoritarian governments to censor the Internet. Just as objectionable are proposals that ignore how the Internet works, threatening its smooth and open operations," reports the Wall Street Journal.

"Having the Internet rewired by bureaucrats would be like handing a Stradivarius to a gorilla. The Internet is made up of 40,000 networks that interconnect among 425,000 global routes, cheaply and efficiently delivering messages and other digital content among more than two billion people around the world, with some 500,000 new users a day. ...

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: censorship; control; internet; internetcontrol; uncensorship; uninternet; unitednations

1 posted on 11/26/2012 1:16:16 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

The U.N. needs to be closed down.

Completely.


2 posted on 11/26/2012 1:22:05 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Jim Robinson

the crooks at the United Nations only want see how such they can steal


3 posted on 11/26/2012 1:22:53 PM PST by molson209
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To: Jim Robinson

It is already technically possible for them to create an alternative to the internet. All they have to do is create their own DNS structure in the manner that they want and then have their ISPs connect to their internet.

The trick will be to get people to actually USE their alternative.


4 posted on 11/26/2012 1:23:22 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Jim Robinson
Can't be done.

The 'internet' is simply an agreement between parties (and their software) to communicate in a specific protocol. A protocol with specific features to allow robust alternatives to damage. Like censorship.

"You can't stop the signal Mal".

/johnny

5 posted on 11/26/2012 1:27:57 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: molson209

... that is one side. The internet also spreads knowledge and freedom. Do you think they want their world to know the bloody and sick side of Islam ? Or that Islam has created the most backwards people and lifestyle for them?

Given that most of the UN is OIC, I would think their greatest fear is the loss of power and the people coming into the 21st century.

I think revolution through knowledge is on their doorstep.
Ideas and knowledge can destroy them.

Phuque Mohammet. Did I just call the internet police?


6 posted on 11/26/2012 1:29:46 PM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: molson209

“the crooks at the United Nations only want see how such they can steal”

All so consistently Islamic. Raid, steal, destroy. They can’t create.


7 posted on 11/26/2012 1:33:18 PM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: All
Rule Number One of The UN Internet Club:

‘The Future Must Not Belong To Those Who Slander The Prophet Of Islam’


Rule Number Two of the UN Internet Club:

‘The Future Must Not Belong To Those Who Slander The Prophet Karl Marx’

8 posted on 11/26/2012 1:34:39 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: BenLurkin
The U.N. needs to be closed down. Completely.

Dust off and nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

9 posted on 11/26/2012 1:40:28 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jim Robinson

The UN or anyone else can try to control the internet and will meet with some success.

However geeks will always find a way around whatever they do.

Is anyone old enough to remember how things really started? Oh yes there was Darpanet and the rest however there were also tinkers who sat in cold basements slaving over blinking grain of wheat bulbs, phone and radio connections.

On the phone side at an agreed upon time one house would contact another and the second house would contact a third and so on. Information was exchanged. There was the precursor of email that was slower than snail mail and didn’t look anything like it does today.

The genie is out. It can’t be put back. There is always a way.

The French underground in Lyon had a complete mail system set up and running in WWII.

All that said...if they try...

COME AND GET ME COPPER!

GO AHEAD. MAKE MY DAY.


10 posted on 11/26/2012 1:40:59 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right screw up! Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Jim Robinson
I learned about the UN in the early 80's when I met a John Bircher.

He gave me a book I devoured ... "None Dare Call It Treason" and since then, I've come to the conclusion that the problems of America are solved only with violence, revolution and a lot of innocent sacrifice.

MY problem is I don't want to die, so my intellectualism is moot and useless.


I think that if a leader were to come along that I believed in, I'd probably follow orders, but for now .. I think the best I can do is prepare for me and mine.


.. and I hate that part of me.

11 posted on 11/26/2012 1:55:38 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Jim Robinson

If this goes down, we may see a revival of the old dial-up BBSes.


12 posted on 11/26/2012 2:05:24 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: Jim Robinson

“The Internet”

It’s the name commonly given to the interconnection of multiple computers. Some computers are servers - they serve files to the client computers. Client computers ask for files from a server. The computers communicate by putting out messages following a certain set of rules, or protocol.

There is no one object or thing that one can put one’s finger on and say “This is the internet.” It’s the interconnection (see above).

It has no central control point. There is no way to control the internet.

That won’t stop the fascists in the UN and in Washington. They want to tax and control. The inevitable result of their taxing and control is destruction.

Brilliant minds conceived the internet (not Al Gore). It has worked beatifully without government sticking its hands in. So, naturally, now government is going to put its inept hands in it and totally destroy it.

They can only destroy what normal people have built up.


13 posted on 11/26/2012 2:06:58 PM PST by I want the USA back (Liberalism is an incurable failure of the mind's ability to think rationally.)
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To: Windflier

http://www.moviesoundclips.net/download.php?id=696&ft=wav


14 posted on 11/26/2012 2:10:11 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Tom Jefferson; backhoe; BARLF; timestax; imintrouble; cake_crumb; Brad's Gramma; MizSterious; ...
Important! If we want to keep the UN and their dictators away from our freedom of speech, we need to act!

No more UN for US-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

15 posted on 11/26/2012 2:10:51 PM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: Jim Robinson

This is the time to draw the line. Freedom of speech is in danger. The US must never, ever hand over control of the internet to a bunch of dictators!


16 posted on 11/26/2012 2:14:53 PM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: JRandomFreeper

The issues are likely related to naming regulations and agreed-upon taxation.


17 posted on 11/26/2012 2:20:44 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Gene Eric
They will need luck with that. Naming regulations can be circumvented, and avoiding the tax-man has been going on since the first taxes were levied.

/johnny

18 posted on 11/26/2012 2:26:14 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Jim Robinson
How on earth would the United Nations use the Internet other than to enrich the few not the many probably through TAXES. That Rogue organization is dangerously corrupt as it is......as the FR poster said, the UN needs to be done away with; not encouraged to garner anything more than it has already. United Nations Agenda 21 (Structure & Organization)....each of these has dozens and dozens of agencies under them.....talk about non-sustainability.......
19 posted on 11/26/2012 2:27:39 PM PST by yoe
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To: knarf

“None Dare Call It Conspiracy” was the book. Great read and probably suppressed by now into semi-underground.

It debunks Left Right spectrum scale and names names.

I’m glad to have read it, but we need a lot more people who should have read it.

I have same issues as yourself in regard to doing anything about it. My intuition, however, says there are leaders already in the cue, and least likely ones.

Timing is everything.


20 posted on 11/26/2012 3:04:39 PM PST by trotskylvalia (where nose meets the grindstone)
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To: molson209
I could only imagine those dumb a##e# "in charge" of the internet.

It would be such a shame if people used the internet to make comments on how funny it would to shoot Useless Nations (UN) bureaucrats.

And then talked about those bomb Black Friday sales; especially those sweet gun deals at Dick Sporting goods. Who wouldn't attack such a great deal on a Remington 700? Or all those wonderful chemicals caffeine and nicotine to stay awake on late night shopping trips? Unfortunately the Surgeon General thinks those are poison for you. By the way, did anyone see the mass panic stories about Wal Mart's BF sales?

21 posted on 11/26/2012 3:04:48 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Jim Robinson
Next week the Anti-American, Tax loving United Nations' International Telecommunications Union will meet in Dubai to figure out how to SCREW UP the Internet.

Fixed it...

22 posted on 11/26/2012 3:05:50 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (More Republicans stayed home then the margin of victory of O's Win...)
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To: Jim Robinson
"Having the Internet rewired by bureaucrats would be like handing a Stradivarius to a gorilla.

I would rather hand a Stradivarius to a gorilla than hand over the INTERNET to the U.N.

I think the gorilla would be SMARTER than the UN people!!

23 posted on 11/26/2012 3:12:21 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (More Republicans stayed home then the margin of victory of O's Win...)
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To: Jim Robinson

When ya see the big white trucks and armored psersonnel carriers coming down the road in a hugh convoy to your local community, U’kNow what’s next. time to raise carrier pigeons or invest in mini-drones.. when freedom of virtual thought is forbidden ,, no one wins.


24 posted on 11/26/2012 4:16:00 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Jim Robinson

Should be quite interesting to see what “Anonymous” makes of this threat.


25 posted on 11/26/2012 4:30:52 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Jim Robinson


26 posted on 11/26/2012 5:56:28 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: I want the USA back

Dunno.
Aren’t there backbones that carry vast amounts of information between networks, core routers that direct their flow, and organizations that allocate IPs and Domain Names?
Control of that infrastructure and the organizations controlling domain names and IP allocation might amount to control of the “Internet.”


27 posted on 11/26/2012 6:18:03 PM PST by Little Ray (I have VOTED AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I wonder whether algore is on the invitation list?


28 posted on 11/26/2012 7:57:15 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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29 posted on 11/26/2012 7:58:11 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Jim Robinson

I kicked notes to my Congresscritter and Senator to oppose all things U.N., and specifically the arms and prop 21 deals. Congressman Pallazo’s response was not reassuring even though he’s supposed to be a staunch conservative. I urge all on FR to send multiple emails to their reps.


30 posted on 11/27/2012 4:09:11 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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