Posted on 12/14/2012 6:34:13 AM PST by Kaslin
This was a commandment direct from God. Your comments about being written by people with many flaws don’t apply here.
Right? Unless you think God was flawed in making that law.
As far as being executed; that was right and just at that time. Now - thanks to the Cross - there is not a physical death. But unless they repent and are saved, there is worse - an eternal death.
So when will we hear about the new “Queer-an?”
I heartily disagree. There is idolatry, perjury, murder, coveting... and indeed, if you were to think of the story of the Good Samaritan the people it implicitly condemned (the priest & Levite, both people who should be near God and God's heart, and as Jesus said elsewhere: it is sin for one who knows to do good and does it not) were full-clothed.
Is participation in a gross distortion of Gods Word that can potentially lead millions of souls astray a worse sin than individual transgressions. I would say yes...Jesus said it would be worse for the Pharisees, hypocrites. How, I. do not know nor wish to find out but this is a perilous thing to be involved in.
Yeah, I don’t think God made the “law” that homosexuals should be executed. Your contention that it was “right and just” to execute homosexuals “at that time” is beyond absurd. I tend to believe that executing a homosexual (by, say, chopping his head off) would be far more morally reprehensible than homosexuality itself. I’m pretty comfortable Jesus would agree.
If the King James Version was good enough for St. Paul, it’s good enough for me.
oh good grief...keep it in context of the verse. do people have to pick apart others posts. I am aware of all the aspects of disobedience to God. The point is God gave old man Adam skins for a reason...see no evil. Of course temptation and its fruits can still happen. anyway...thanks
Jesus, in Luke 24:44
The concept, I think, is of spiritual death, in the sense of Adam and Eve eating from the tree, or Cain mudering Abel. They were allowed to live on but from thence were flawed beings. These parables make sense in the world. Not to suggest that it didn’t happen, but there is no specific incident of execution for homosexuality in Torah.
Times were tough in OT days. Stones were thrown. Heads rolled. People were swallowed up by the earth. You towed the line or got made an example of what not to do. Ouch.
Fascinating. There is a parallel. Jesus dealt with a sexual sin by telling the woman: "Go and sin no more." Did the woman deserve to be executed? Of course. Jesus did not dispute that. But - as I've said - he came and died on the cross to save sinners. Even adulterers and queers.
But as you know... The New Testament is filled with warnings regarding those who do not repent and believe. There is no more physical death, but there is certainly a spiritual death.
I would presume they chose King James NOT for the reasons given, buy because they don’t have to worry about copyright infringement, like they would for many other more modern and accurate versions.
I love the circular logic of claiming the bible says “nothing” about homosexuality, and then editing verses that do so they no longer do, pretending they are simply “correcting” misinterpretation.
I wonder if that also tried to “fix” the many verses in the bible that make it clear that marriage is for a man and a woman.
I agree, of course, the argument you are trying to make. But your supporting of evidence has one giant flaw:
The bible was only compiled a couple centuries AFTER Revelation was written. I’ll be the first on line to eviscerate the arguments of those who say that somehow challenges the validity of any book of the bible. But the problem is that for two centuries, people read Revelation outside of its current context, that being at the end of the bible. It’s precisely because Revelation was the last book to be universally accepted throughout the Christian church that is why that verse seems to refer to the entire bible.
A much better argument to be made would come from Mathew 5:18: “Amen, Amen, I say to you: Til heaven and earth pass away, neither one jot nor tittle shall in any way pass from the law, til all has been fulfilled.”
Just wait till the pacifists begin working on Shakespeare.
Leni
Kenites.
This may become the best seller of the new, liberal “Amerika”.
So your evidence that Jesus agrees with your barbaric assertion that homosexuality deserved execution is a story in which Jesus did exactly the opposite. As you say, fascinating.
When the truth about a person’s behavior doesn’t matter, why should a true translation of holy text matter?
YES absolutely excellent, Thanks :)
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