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Gun-Control Battle Looms in Light of Connecticut Massacre
Newsmax ^ | Friday, 14 Dec 2012 09:52 PM | Todd Beamon

Posted on 12/14/2012 11:24:30 PM PST by Olog-hai

Gun-ownership groups were preparing themselves on Friday for another barrage of anti-firearm moves following the horrific mass killing at a Connecticut elementary school.

The National Rifle Association and most groups were keeping silent on the day that 28 people, including 20 young children, were shot dead. “Until the facts are thoroughly known, NRA will not have any comment,” the group, based in Fairfax, Va., said in a statement reported by the Atlantic.

But some organizations spoke out, including Gun Owners of America, which has about 300,000 members and is headquartered in Springfield, Va. “Gun-control supporters have the blood of little children on their hands,” Larry Pratt, the group’s executive director, said. “Federal and state laws combined to insure that no teacher, no administrator, no adult had a gun at the Newtown school where the children were murdered. This tragedy underscores the urgency of getting rid of gun bans in school zones,” he added. “The only thing accomplished by gun-free zones is to ensure that mass murderers can slay more before they are finally confronted by someone with a gun.” Gun Owners of America called for state and federal lawmakers to immediately overturn bans on guns in schools. …

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; newtown; nra; sandyhook; sandyhookpolitics; sandyhookshooting; secondamendment
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1 posted on 12/14/2012 11:24:42 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Unfortunately for the gun grabbers the SCOTUS actually got one right in the Heller case.
We’ll be concentrating on saving children from being murdered by the government.


2 posted on 12/14/2012 11:31:36 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Olog-hai

These anti-gun bastards should save it for another day. This callous opportunism is reprehensible.


3 posted on 12/14/2012 11:32:50 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Olog-hai

There isn’t going to be a talk.
There isn’t going to be a discussion.

They are going to ban guns.

If they have to do it through executive order or UN treaty, so be it.

They are going to do it.

This is Obamaland.

Constitution be damned.


4 posted on 12/14/2012 11:34:12 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: tumblindice

The mainstream media causes these shootings.

These psychos seek the fame the media will give them.

These shootings didn’t happen in the decades past before the media started glorifying all these shootings and making the shooters world famous.

The media want’s to take away our guns.

In Norway they had always banned guns but a psycho got a gun on the black market and killed 70+ kids and no security guard etc. had a gun to defend against that cause guns were banned long ago.


5 posted on 12/14/2012 11:35:39 PM PST by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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To: Olog-hai

Americans - both on the right and on the left - have been buying firearms by the bushel ever since President Commie took the oath of office.

Firearms laws, thus, are recently extremely unpopular on both sides of the aisles, even if politicians want to be seen as pro-gun control in light of this latest insanity.

Gun control, however, is a vote loser, so look for there to be an enormous amount of hot air expended, then some toothless and irrelevant new law sent to committee, where it’ll die once things blow over.


6 posted on 12/14/2012 11:36:47 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Jack Hammer

You are forgetting obama’s pen.


7 posted on 12/14/2012 11:50:43 PM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: Olog-hai

I wonder why our government wants to discuss gun control but doesn’t want to discuss 300 dead Mexicans from the illegal gun sales of Fast & Furious...?


8 posted on 12/14/2012 11:52:25 PM PST by freebilly
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To: MestaMachine

Nope. Obama can sign anything he likes; it won’t hold.

And I include the so-called UN treaty, too.

Dollars to donuts.


9 posted on 12/14/2012 11:54:59 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Olog-hai
I think it will come out that the gunman was on all sorts of medication and had no direction of self worth in his life. After all of facts come out, we will see if he was pure evil or mentally disturbed. Evil doesn't care. I think personally, the guy was evil. It took time to aim to hit a victim. People have to realize evil is around every day.
10 posted on 12/14/2012 11:58:37 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: Olog-hai
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11 posted on 12/15/2012 12:09:04 AM PST by MtnMan101
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To: tumblindice

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

Largest School deaths of children was in 1927. Third largest loss of life in USA by mass killing. A .30-caliber Winchester bolt-action rifle was involved, but only used to detonate explosives. Guns are not the problem. They are the solution to nuts with guns.


12 posted on 12/15/2012 12:14:40 AM PST by bluecollarman (Wanted....witty tagline.)
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To: MtnMan101
MtnMan101,

Your graphic post #11 (Violated Twice) says it ALL, and very clearly.

Just keep posting and repeating it in other gun related threads to make sure anyone with a lick of common sense gets the message.

Thanks my friend.

13 posted on 12/15/2012 12:58:32 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Democrat_media
In Norway they had always banned guns but a psycho got a gun on the black market and killed 70+ kids and no security guard etc. had a gun to defend against that cause guns were banned long ago.

EXACTLY. Someone who wants to have a gun will get it - legally or not.

Banning guns will ONLY ensure that law-abiding citizens won't have guns, BUT NOT that non-abiding citizens won't.

Such is the case here - the school employees DID NOT have guns, the shooter [apparently] had guns illegally [they were his mother's].

RESULT: 27 dead victims and 1 dead perp ...

NOW, if someone in the school had been authorized to pack, the perp may never have gone there - or if he did, he might not have been able to commit as much mayhem.

14 posted on 12/15/2012 1:13:48 AM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: Olog-hai

Gun show in Tucson this weekend. A 200 mile round trip for me but it seems a good time to load up on PMAGs.


15 posted on 12/15/2012 1:25:34 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Because 2 terms with Jerry Brown as Governor is all I could take.)
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To: Gene Eric

They can’t wait, but they have to because it’s Christmas time.

After the first of the year, it’s the “fiscal cliff.”

Gun grabbing is always on their menu, and the Marxist plans to go for the prize this time.

We’ll see.

I expect gun and ammo sales to spike more than ever.


16 posted on 12/15/2012 1:35:41 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Good idea.


17 posted on 12/15/2012 1:36:29 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: MestaMachine

That would have. . .Unintended Consequences, I’m quite sure. . .


18 posted on 12/15/2012 1:48:32 AM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: Olog-hai
The National Rifle Association and most groups were keeping silent on the day that 28 people, including 20 young children, were shot dead. “Until the facts are thoroughly known, NRA will not have any comment,” the group, based in Fairfax, Va., said in a statement reported by the Atlantic.

The Democrats hysterical and irrational "connecting the dots" leads them to attempt again to take away the guns of law abiding citizens, so only the government and criminals will have guns.

They miss not an opportunity to disarm responsible, taxpaying citizens. The Democrats refuse to connect the dots showing lower crime rates in areas without gun control laws. The Democrats do not want to look into the circumstances of the Connecticut shootings before they launch their barrage of anti gun sentiment.

19 posted on 12/15/2012 2:21:10 AM PST by olezip
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To: olezip

This is an opportumity to gather public support for an agenda the want dearly


20 posted on 12/15/2012 2:26:39 AM PST by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: Olog-hai

Instead of praying, these folks in Washington DC decided to hold a candlelight vigil in favor of gun control. Libs have no soul or heart.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/candlelight-vigil-for-sandy-hook-victims-at-the-white-house/2012/12/14/0d9a55c0-464a-11e2-8e70-e1993528222d_video.html


21 posted on 12/15/2012 2:38:27 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Olog-hai

This should be a huge day for gun sales, before the gun grabbers use this horror as a pretext.


22 posted on 12/15/2012 2:58:01 AM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: Olog-hai

The murderer did not buy the guns. He took them from his mother, who bought them. How can government stop that?

He did not use the “assault rifle,” only the pistols, so all the inflammatory statements about “assault rifles” are just the usual gun-grabbers’ hyperbole.


23 posted on 12/15/2012 3:04:56 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Olog-hai

Givcn what we know now, the best solution is to round up autistic children. Guns don’t think, but he did. Guns don’t go out and get their friends together to make an arsenal, but he did. Guns don’t stand up and point at children, but he did. guns don’t pull their own triggers, but he did.

So simple if you look at it dispassionately.

Round up the autistic.


24 posted on 12/15/2012 3:19:45 AM PST by plangent
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To: Christie at the beach

And he didn’t even own the guns. So all the laws in the world would not have meant a damn thing.


25 posted on 12/15/2012 3:23:25 AM PST by paul544
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To: Jack Hammer; MestaMachine
Obama can sign anything he likes; it won’t hold.

Jack, you may be right about the pols coming up with something to die in committee. They may also pass something in the Senate to try to demagogue the issue in the House. I don't think Obama will make this his showdown vote. He has bigger things to push through the House like tax increases and taxes on energy.

But the latter reminds me of his war on coal. Ir's no accident that he is hiring 100 high paid federal employees a day. These people are at the upper ranks in the bureaucracies and will themselves have hiring authority. They will hire people who are antigun throughout the federal government and will be guaranteed to hate gun owners, gun manufacturers, employers who allow guns, truckers who ship guns, park administrators, school administrators who don't toe the line, policy wonks who implement gun control in 1000 different ways.

This is Obama's war on America. He wants to destroy America's power and the power invested in Americans by the Bill of Rights. He wants to destroy the soul and moral fiber of America. He wants to teach children to hate and fear guns (except the gang bangers who are his allies). He will sign an EO or two for the cameras so he can be seen as doing something. He may sign a few more away from the cameras that go further. But mostly he is expanding and subverting the federal government for his cause.

26 posted on 12/15/2012 3:29:33 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: Olog-hai
"But some organizations spoke out, including Gun Owners of America, which has about 300,000 members and is headquartered in Springfield, Va. “Gun-control supporters have the blood of little children on their hands,” Larry Pratt, the group’s executive director, said. “Federal and state laws combined to insure that no teacher, no administrator, no adult had a gun at the Newtown school where the children were murdered. This tragedy underscores the urgency of getting rid of gun bans in school zones,” he added. “The only thing accomplished by gun-free zones is to ensure that mass murderers can slay more before they are finally confronted by someone with a gun.” Gun Owners of America called for state and federal lawmakers to immediately overturn bans on guns in schools."

Well said, but it is appearing in Newsmax, not major media. The left's control of the major media is an incredible handicap in fighting the anti-freedom forces of victimhood.

27 posted on 12/15/2012 3:41:35 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Olog-hai

A Sig Sauer handgun and a Glock handgun were used in the slaying and .223 shell casings – a round used in a semi-automatic military-style rifle — were also found at the scene. Nancy Lanza had numerous weapons registered to her, including a Glock and a Sig Sauer. She also owned a Bushmaster rifle — a semi-automatic carbine chambered for a .223 caliber round. However, federal authorities cannot confirm that the handguns or the rifle were the weapons recovered at the school.

If you have a child with issues why are thier guns in your home, irresponsible gun owner!


28 posted on 12/15/2012 3:55:19 AM PST by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: Olog-hai

The act was done by a young man who was totally wasted.

The school was a gun free zone.

Where were the guards?

The blame lies squarely upon the shoulders of all in administrative power within the school and all who made it a gun free zone........NOT LAW ABIDING GUN OWNERS!


29 posted on 12/15/2012 4:20:50 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Olog-hai

High School-Columbine, University-Virgina Tech, Elementary School-Sandy Hook, Middle School- ?... Maybe we can be ready for the next one, but the only thing that will be done, is making it more difficult for those who can do something, to be able to do anything.


30 posted on 12/15/2012 4:25:30 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Daveinyork

People need to be stocking up on firearms and ammo like there is no tomorrow including buying extras for parts and extras on top of that for future generations and possibly even BURYING some out in the rural countryside. If the government can try it, they’ll use every means at their disposal to dismantle peoples homes to find every thing that ever had a serial # filed with ATF since ‘68. If items are buried, they’ll have to use ground penetrating radar over every square inch the North American US. I don’t think they have the funds, the manpower, nor the capability to find everything that way, especially if folks bury docoys; junk, car parts, other piece metal to bog down an entire search session.


31 posted on 12/15/2012 5:02:37 AM PST by MachIV
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Good on two points. Pmags are good mags. 30 round mags will be the first targets of any new legislation.


32 posted on 12/15/2012 5:04:14 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Good on two points. Pmags are good mags. 30 round mags will be the first targets of any new legislation.


33 posted on 12/15/2012 5:04:14 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Good on two points. Pmags are good mags. 30 round mags will be the first targets of any new legislation.


34 posted on 12/15/2012 5:04:17 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Good on two points. Pmags are good mags. 30 round mags will be the first targets of any new legislation.


35 posted on 12/15/2012 5:04:17 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Good on two points. Pmags are good mags. 30 round mags will be the first targets of any new legislation.


36 posted on 12/15/2012 5:04:17 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Good on two points. Pmags are good mags. 30 round mags will be the first targets of any new legislation.


37 posted on 12/15/2012 5:04:17 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Good on two points. Pmags are good mags. 30 round mags will be the first targets of any new legislation.


38 posted on 12/15/2012 5:04:17 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Good on two points. Pmags are good mags. 30 round mags will be the first targets of any new legislation.


39 posted on 12/15/2012 5:04:31 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Good on two points. Pmags are good mags. 30 round mags will be the first targets of any new legislation.


40 posted on 12/15/2012 5:04:39 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Good on two points. Pmags are good mags. 30 round mags will be the first targets of any new legislation.


41 posted on 12/15/2012 5:04:39 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Good on two points. Pmags are good mags. 30 round mags will be the first targets of any new legislation.


42 posted on 12/15/2012 5:04:49 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Good on two points. Pmags are good mags. 30 round mags will be the first targets of any new legislation.


43 posted on 12/15/2012 5:04:49 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Good on two points. Pmags are good mags. 30 round mags will be the first targets of any new legislation.


44 posted on 12/15/2012 5:04:55 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Good on two points. Pmags are good mags. 30 round mags will be the first targets of any new legislation.


45 posted on 12/15/2012 5:04:55 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Good on two points. Pmags are good mags. 30 round mags will be the first targets of any new legislation.


46 posted on 12/15/2012 5:04:55 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Good on two points. Pmags are good mags. 30 round mags will be the first targets of any new legislation.


47 posted on 12/15/2012 5:05:00 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Good on two points. Pmags are good mags. 30 round mags will be the first targets of any new legislation.


48 posted on 12/15/2012 5:05:10 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Good on two points. Pmags are good mags. 30 round mags will be the first targets of any new legislation.


49 posted on 12/15/2012 5:05:10 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Good on two points. Pmags are good mags. 30 round mags will be the first targets of any new legislation.


50 posted on 12/15/2012 5:05:28 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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