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Rampage Shootings: It's the Moral Decay of Society, not Guns
Townhall.com ^ | December 15, 2012 | Rachel Alexander

Posted on 12/15/2012 6:05:49 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar; xzins; wagglebee

Frankly I am shocked at some of the movies that get PG rating. Did you know that Midnight Cowboy was originally rated X? I’ve seen PG movies that are just as vile.

A lot of these new Hollywood movies and video games embrace evil and Satan and demons and engage is glorified violence simply for arousing prurient interests. Then when the effects of their artwork comes home to roost, they blame the weapons used by their creations rather than their constant bombardment of children with violent images, unnatural sex and the embrace of death and vampires and all manner of demonic activity.

These hypocrites all travel the country with armed body guards to protect themselves from the monsters they created. And they want to take away our right to defend ourselves from those monsters.

I think it is time we declared war on those who have declared a spiritual war on our children. Let them take the blame for poisoning the minds of little children and leading down the path to spiritual destruction.


81 posted on 12/15/2012 10:16:17 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: Chickensoup

Say, were you not the one who said these non-war, U.S. mass shooting events in modern America, of the totally innocent, were common throughout the U.S. history? Did you not suggest these mass shootings were not increasing in frequency and severity?

Where did ya get that?


82 posted on 12/15/2012 10:17:38 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: babble-on
no, it’s not that either.

That's not much of a babble, babble-on! Babble on, anyway!

83 posted on 12/15/2012 10:18:46 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: A CA Guy
"They could kill with a knife, car, bomb and so forth if you don't have guns."

Yes. Crimes involving guns went way down in UK after gun bans were enacted but crimes with knives, along with smothering, choking, poisonings, et al, went way up.

84 posted on 12/15/2012 10:21:39 AM PST by hummingbird
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To: Kenny
"A friend of mine went on different shows talking about this, how they actually use some form of video games to train police and military."

That is what I understand, too, about video games training police, military.

These are the same type of videos in the hands of disturbed and/or impressionable kids.

85 posted on 12/15/2012 10:29:31 AM PST by hummingbird
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To: P-Marlowe

BTTT....


86 posted on 12/15/2012 10:32:04 AM PST by hummingbird
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To: lgjhn23

Thanks for that comment.

Guess what I learned about the killer: He was into liberalism’s “goth” sub-culture. That is the philosphy and ethics of Christianity turned up-side-down and named “entertainment.” The pure hatred of humanity and goodness is the goth mentality, style and “art.” The pose is depression and darkness and many young white people have been taken by it’s spirit.


87 posted on 12/15/2012 10:39:12 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Kaslin
Some resources on school threats for consideration. (There’s some old news here, but evil, terrorism and massacres never go out of style.)

Terrorists – coming to a school near you
Police ill-equipped to defend against an American Beslan
WND
Published: 04/02/2007 at 1:00 AM

Note: Killology Research Group website does not seem to still be actively updated.

Mass Slaughter In Our Schools: The Terrorists' Chilling Plan?
By Chuck Remsberg
Senior PoliceOne Contributor

School Safety Notes and Articles About School Safety by Col. Grossman
Preventing School Violence
School Shooting Contingency Plans & Considerations
”Preparing for School Attacks" published in The Police Marksman

School Safety Notes, Articles, And Links About School Safety by Other Authors
Rise in 'shool terror attacks' - New Important Article
A School Lockdown/Emergency Drill Success Story
Rapid Response/Active Shooter Lesson Plan
Safe 2 Tell

88 posted on 12/15/2012 10:53:15 AM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control. It's about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: JoeProBono

Scary...


89 posted on 12/15/2012 10:58:59 AM PST by hummingbird
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To: lgjhn23

BTTT....


90 posted on 12/15/2012 11:00:58 AM PST by hummingbird
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To: hummingbird

“...Something about young men in late teens/early 20’s goes terribly wrong....”

They’ve been dumbed down, drugged, sissified and feminized all thru school while their bodies and hormones remain pure male with little or no outlet. They don’t know what or who they are, but they begin to realize the violent video games give them a sense of masculinity and an outlet to the point they carry out deeds like this to prove something to themselves and those that would have them remain sissified. It’s outright demonic. But would you expect anything less from the godless communist liberals?


91 posted on 12/15/2012 12:17:32 PM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: dragnet2

The links are below

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers

We in the states are pikers compared to the rest of the world.


http://www.amazon.com/Mass-Murder-United-States-History/dp/0786431504

This book explores these questions by examining 909 mass murders that took place in the United States between 1900 and 1999. By far the largest study on the topic to date, it begins with a look at the patterns and prevalence of mass murders by presenting rates from 1900-1999 and by describing the characteristics of mass killers. Placing the phenomenon within the broader social, political, and economic context of the twentieth century, the work examines the factors that have influenced trends in the prevalence of mass murder. It also discusses more than 100 case studies within three distinct periods of mass murder activity (1900-1939, 1940-1965, and 1966-1999) to illustrate more clearly the motives of mass murderers and the circumstances surrounding their crimes. The final chapters take a look at media coverage and the role it has played in the social construction of mass murder.

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http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2012/07/aurora_shooting_how_did_people_commit_mass_murder_before_automatic_weapons_.html

The shooting spree that killed 12 people in an Aurora, Colo., movie theater on Friday has sparked a public debate about the availability of automatic weapons. Gun control advocates argue that mass murder is exceedingly difficult without them. One source told the Washington Post, “It’s kind of hard to be a pseudo-commando with a musket in the 18th century.” How did people commit mass murder before the advent of automatic weapons?

Often with fire. Revolutionary War veteran Barnett Davenport is widely considered the first mass murderer in U.S. history. On the evening of Feb. 3, 1780, Davenport burst into the bedroom of his employer, Caleb Mallory, and began to bludgeon Mallory and his wife with a club. When the club broke in two, Davenport beat the couple to death with Mallory’s gun. If Davenport had stopped there, he would be remembered as just an ordinary killer; most criminologists define mass murder as the killing of at least three people in a single incident. After beating the Mallorys to death, however, Davenport burned the house down, killing their three grandchildren.

Hundreds of other mass murderers have perpetrated their crimes without automatic firearms. Frenchman Pierre Riviere killed his mother, sister, and brother with a bill hook in 1835. In 1932, Julian Marcelino, a Filipino immigrant of relatively small stature, managed to kill six and wound 15 on a Seattle street using only a pair of blades. In 1915, Monroe Phillips shot seven dead and wounded 32 with a shotgun in Georgia.

Guns aren’t even the most lethal mass murder weapon. According to data compiled by Grant Duwe of the Minnesota Department of Corrections, guns killed an average of 4.92 victims per mass murder in the United States during the 20th century, just edging out knives, blunt objects, and bare hands, which killed 4.52 people per incident. Fire killed 6.82 people per mass murder, while explosives far outpaced the other options at 20.82. Of the 25 deadliest mass murders in the 20th century, only 52 percent involved guns.

The U.S. mass murder rate does not seem to rise or fall with the availability of automatic weapons. It reached its highest level in 1929, when fully automatic firearms were expensive and mostly limited to soldiers and organized criminals. The rate dipped in the mid-1930s, staying relatively low before surging again in the 1970s through 1990s. Some criminologists attribute the late-century spike to the potential for instant notoriety: Beginning with Charles Whitman’s 1966 shooting spree from atop a University of Texas tower, mass murderers became household names. Others point out that the mass murder rate fairly closely tracks the overall homicide rate. In the 2000s, for example, both the mass murder and the homicide rates dropped to their lowest levels since the 1960s.

A mass murderer’s weapon of choice depends somewhat on his victims. Attacks with guns, fire, knives, and bare hands are far more likely to be directed against family and acquaintances than total strangers, while mass murderers prefer to use explosives against people they don’t know. Also of note: Those who use firearms in a killing spree turn the gun on themselves 34 percent of the time, while only 9 percent of mass-murdering arsonists take their own lives.


92 posted on 12/15/2012 2:00:17 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: dragnet2

Nine hundred nine since I think colonial times.

Look at the wiki worldwide stats to be amazed


93 posted on 12/15/2012 2:07:29 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: xzins
There is much at work here, and your post addresses most of it, in a far more analytic way than anything I've seen.

So much has happened in our society since the second World War, and it shouldn't take a student of history to understand how we have come to this place. We should all be able to realize what is happening here, but it is clear that not all of us do. If we as a society do not face today's realities, we will not survive.

94 posted on 12/15/2012 2:50:06 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Chickensoup

There is a term for it in various cultures.

AMOC

JURAMENTADO

BERZERKER.


95 posted on 12/15/2012 3:00:55 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (SAVE THE SUMATRAN RAT MONKEY!)
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To: Dr. Ursus
This what happen’s when we a nation kick God out of our schools and take down the ten commandments,then some wonder what went wrong,
96 posted on 12/15/2012 11:00:15 PM PST by primrose (PRIMROSE)
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To: hummingbird

There are tons of other boys like this one with equal potential to go off.
So when do we put them in a ward for life or castrate them so their hormones don’t send them over the edge?

We are so civil that we will not deal with the cause (crazies) and will continue to see mass deaths of the innocent so we can leave crazy people free.

That IMO is the way it is.


97 posted on 12/16/2012 7:04:38 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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