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This is reassuring, despite reports to contrary.

"Republicans need not worry about handing the Speakership over to Nancy Pelosi or some other Democrat in this process, either. “Don’t worry about Speaker Boehner losing GOP votes in a secret ballot,” the House rule document compiled by staffers obtained by Breitbart News read.

It is still not possible for Pelosi to become Speaker even with 100 % of Democrats united behind her and a split GOP vote. The reason is to become Speaker it is not enough to win a plurality. One must win an absolute majority of all votes cast for an individual.

So even if all 201 Democrats vote Pelosi, Boehner gets 1 vote, and the remaining 233 Republicans each vote for a different individual, Pelosi does not win. Pelosi would need 218 to reach a majority of the 435 votes cast for an individual. Since Republicans have a 33 vote advantage in the House, the only way Pelosi wins is if 17 Boehner opponents affirmatively vote Pelosi or abstain rather than simply vote for an alternative candidate. Both these scenarios are easily avoided. The same argument applies if fewer than 435 Members show up to vote. The magic number would be less than 218 but Pelosi still cannot get there so long as there are more Republicans in the room than Democrats and they don’t abstain or voter [sic] for her.

1 posted on 12/22/2012 5:53:32 AM PST by SMGFan
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If he is going to be ousted, it would happen behind closed doors in the Republican caucus, not on the floor.

The Pubbies would select someone else to replace him and that person would be their ‘floor’ nominee.

Pelosi and the Dems are irrelevant regarding this, as they are the minority.


2 posted on 12/22/2012 5:58:28 AM PST by TomGuy
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YES!!!

Please God let this be true and let it come to fruition.


3 posted on 12/22/2012 6:07:03 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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Bring back Newt!


4 posted on 12/22/2012 6:11:40 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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There’s talk of Ryan becoming Speaker, as sort of a bridge between the old guard worthless types and the Conservative hard liners, similar to when Dennis Hastert took over after Newt resigned. A hard liner should be Majority Leader. I’m for Tom Price.

I’d like to see a new speaker replace the committee chairs too, but I doubt that would happen. Boehner probably solidified the committees intentionally in case he was removed by the conservatives.


6 posted on 12/22/2012 6:20:17 AM PST by cotton1706
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I don’t think he will be ousted. But the question I have is who would replace him if he were? Does anyone have nearly as much support as he does?


10 posted on 12/22/2012 6:42:54 AM PST by Brilliant
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At the risk of stating the obvious, Boehner is not a leader. He’s just your garden variety politician.

He is tentative, equivocates and engages in the self-feating tactic of publically negotiating with himself. He needs to be replaced by someone capable of taking a consistent and principled stand, driving the narrative, and energizing his troops. He simply lacks the qualities necessary to lead at this crucial time in our history.

A strong leader would be a wonderful contrast to the weak, mendacious and indecisive Obama. Such a leader would significantly help the Republican brand, such as it is.


14 posted on 12/22/2012 6:57:50 AM PST by Starboard
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Who ever this “new” leader might be; so help me G-d, i never want to hear the following words uttered out of their mouths: “I look forward to working with the Democrats and the President...I'm sure we can find common ground.”

This should be a Tea Party Conservative! Oh, yes, and screw what Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, Karl Rove, and any of the other “smart” Establishment types think!

16 posted on 12/22/2012 7:04:58 AM PST by Artcore
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Not compromising on Obama’s part has led to this so thank you Mr. Obama.


27 posted on 12/22/2012 8:06:28 AM PST by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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Our Kansas delegation has had it Mika Brzezinski: ‘Wooooooooooow,’ our ‘Morning Joe’ interview with Tim Huelskamp was ‘disturbing’ (Twitchy)

I'd say give it to Paul Ryan or someone who has deep Tea Party roots. Tim would be great, IMO

29 posted on 12/22/2012 8:08:47 AM PST by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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This is obviously the House GOP members “Plan-B” as in “Plan-Boehner!” to get rid of the current speaker. I’m so sorry.. I couldn’t help myself.


36 posted on 12/22/2012 8:18:04 AM PST by fremont_steve
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If this path is followed then let’s hope that it is not like the vote in 2006 where the republicans sh*t the bed big time by not supporting the most effective majority leader (Shadegg) in place of the most popular (Boehner). Smart money says that the republicans will drop the ball, yet, once again.


39 posted on 12/22/2012 8:26:32 AM PST by CheneyClone
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“HOUSE REPUBLICANS CIRCULATE PLAN TO OUST BOEHNER FROM SPEAKERSHIP”

Outstanding!


41 posted on 12/22/2012 8:49:14 AM PST by ScottfromNJ
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“It is still not possible for Pelosi to become Speaker even with 100 % of Democrats united behind her and a split GOP vote. The reason is to become Speaker it is not enough to win a plurality. One must win an absolute majority of all votes cast for an individual.”


True, but a few weeks ago a self-proclaimed conservativ leader was calling on Republican Representatives to abstain, thinking that if 15 or so abstained it would prevent Boehner from winning and force Republicans to nominate a new Speaker. But unless they vote for someone else instead of abstaining, Boener would be elected Speaker; and if 32+ abstained, Pelosi would be elected Speaker.

It would be easier to convince conservatives dissatisfied with Boehner to abstain than to vote for someone else (except for Paulistinians such as Amash, Bentivolio and Massie, who probably vote for their cult leader L. Ron Paul). So unless someone steps up and runs for Speaker, and can convince 15+ Republicans to vote for him, Boehner would be reelected Speaker. (And if some Democrats abstain instead of voting for Pelosi—think McIntyre and Matheson—then the insurgent Republican would need to peel off even more votes to prevent Boehner from winning.)


45 posted on 12/22/2012 9:11:44 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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If Boehner really cared about the country, he would resign. He would still have his cushy house seat and maybe we could get someone who would keep to conservative prinicples.


48 posted on 12/22/2012 9:19:49 AM PST by FR_addict
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Too little, too late. They ALL need to go.


54 posted on 12/22/2012 10:10:58 AM PST by Drill Thrawl (We have crossed the line from independence & liberty to dependency & servitude. We are doomed)
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If your Boehner lasts more than four hours, it’s time to see a doctor.


55 posted on 12/22/2012 10:11:17 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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About d___ time.


57 posted on 12/22/2012 10:54:32 AM PST by Jeff Winston
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Steven Latourette of Ohio thinks that people who are Conservative are “chuckleheads.”

What do you think of Steven Latourette of Ohio?


58 posted on 12/22/2012 11:17:27 AM PST by NYCslicker
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i pray that a future without boehner and his cronies is in God’s plan.

as for his replacement, how about someone who can actually *speak* conservatism for *speaker.*

mr. walker, mrs. bachmann, mr. steve king, mr. ryan, even mr. levin would all do nicely.


61 posted on 12/22/2012 11:41:29 AM PST by dadfly
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Any time from now would suit me just fine. The sooner the better.

Bonehead is not a leader. He may not even be a good political hack. He is a drunk and weak though.


64 posted on 12/22/2012 12:00:28 PM PST by Sequoyah101
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