Posted on 12/23/2012 3:17:15 PM PST by neverdem
Talking back to wife after the look may cause - Fill in the blank
Fill in the Blank _________ may cause ________
I know, I am a PhD
6 anti-polio workers killed in Pakistan
Overcoming small obstacles (Nanofabrication methods)
DNA hydrogel has a long memory
FReepmail me if you want on or off my health and science ping list.
Car Crashes might be dangerous to your health! So can falls!!!
Perhaps the holiday spirits I have had are having an ill effect on my comprehension, but I read the first two paragraphs and they seem to completely contradict one another. So I stopped...reading, that is.
The amount of that crap swinging around tends to have an inverse relationship to the driver's willingness or ability to control their vehicle and behave like a human being on the road.
Thanks for posting this.
I occasionally have trouble sleeping and I will bookmark this article to read if that occurs tonight.
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“Little George, did you chop down that cherry tree?”
“I cannot tell a lie, my epigenetic modifications made me do it!”
And yet the title of the article is, "Smoking Smothers Your Genes"
What a load of cr@p.
This type of statistical associations on 'non-randomized samples' are equally indicative of causal role of a substance X (tobacco smoke) in disease D (lung cancer), as it is for protective/therapeutic role of X for D or D's precursors/causes. For example, people taking high blood pressure meds are statistically more likely to suffer heart attacks and strokes than those not taking these medications. This association doesn't mean that these meds cause heart attacks and strokes. In fact they protect against underlying causes of these very same events with which they associate (that's what gives rise to this association).
Since tobacco smoke happens to have potent anti-inflammatory effects and it also upregulates key detox and antioxidant enzymes (nearly doubling glutathione, catalase and SOD), one would expect it to be statistically associated with variety of toxic, including carcinogenic, exposures since it provides relief against the effects of such exposures (e.g. doubling the detox rate and reducing inflammatory reactions).
While there were no genuine randomized smoking experiments on humans, there were thousands such experiments on animals but you will never hear about these findings since they all went the "wrong way" -- smoking animals get fewer cancers and live ~20% longer than non-smoking animals, while staying thinner (by 15%) and sharper into the old age.
You can find references and discussions of the above facts in the longevity/nootropics forum (longecity) in a thread "Smoking is good for you" (I post as 'nightlight'). The TOC of the thread topics is in another post on that site.
And yet the title of the article is, "Smoking Smothers Your Genes"
What a load of cr@p. --- }
Good catch (thanks, the paper is behind paywall and the quoted admission is not in the free abstract). They simply picked yet another statistical marker for smoking (epigenetic) and established a mere non-randomized association with 'smoking related' disease.
By using epigenetic markers for smoking they wish to create an illusion that their result is from hard science (experiments, uncovering of biochemical mechanism), instead of being junk science, observation of a mere non-randomized statistical associations (which could imply mutually opposite conclusions).
Yes, I want to live a long time so some liberal death panel can decide my life ends with a withdrawal of food and water. Maybe they’ll pull finger nails out with pliers for extra fun. At a certain age, it’s best to start smoking again...
At a certain age, its best to start smoking again...
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
DR: “Do you smoke, drink, carouse, etc”
Man: “No, NO, No”.
Dr: “What is your long term goal”?
Man: “to live to be 100”
Dr: “Why bother”?
LOL - Thanks for sharing.
Good for you.
I quit 5 years ago. Can't say it was the best thing I ever did. I haven't seen very many things change since stopping.
As long as you don't become an anti-smoker you're fine.
Sonds like the study done by the World Health Organization that you won't find bandied about by any anti-smoker, even though it's the largest study on smoking ever done.
I'll give you one guess on that outcome.
The results were so bad, they even removed the news stories which initially reported on it (such as the U.K. Telegraph story below).
Passive smoking doesn't cause cancer - official
By Victoria Macdonald, Health Correspondent (U.K. Telegraph)
THE world's leading health organization has withheld from publication a study which shows that not only might there be no link between passive smoking and lung cancer but that it could even have a protective effect.
The astounding results are set to throw wide open the debate on passive smoking health risks. The World Health Organisation, which commissioned the 12-centre, seven-country European study has failed to make the findings public, and has instead produced only a summary of the results in an internal report.
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