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Obama hopes to enact new gun-control measures in 2013
The Hill Blogs via Drudge Report ^ | Sunday December 30, 2012 09:49 AM ET | By Meghashyam Mali

Posted on 12/30/2012 4:00:49 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

Edited on 12/30/2012 9:52:15 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

President Obama on Sunday said he would make gun control a priority in his new term, pledging to put his "full weight" behind passing new restrictions on firearms in 2013.

"I'm going to be putting forward a package and I'm going to be putting my full weight behind it," Obama said in an interview aired on NBC's "Meet the Press."

"I'm going to be making an argument to the American people about why this is important and why we have to do everything we can to make sure that something like what happened at Sandy Hook Elementary does not happen again."

Read more here: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/274881-obama-hopes-to-enact-new-gun-control-measures-in-2013


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: cw2; cwii; guncontrol; guns; obama; resistance; secondamendment; stockpilesong; thestockpilesong
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To: CodeToad

” to do away with the parts of the Constitution it does not like.”

Like the part where it gave states the right to secede.

;D


101 posted on 12/30/2012 5:27:18 PM PST by Salamander (I wear my sunglasses at night.)
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To: American Dream 246
And when they will decide to take the guns, they will!!!

Speak for yourself Sally because you do NOT speak for we men.

102 posted on 12/30/2012 5:27:33 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: cripplecreek
That's right... listen to Grandma!. :-) She KNOWS. She was THERE.
103 posted on 12/30/2012 5:28:02 PM PST by hiredhand
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To: Lurker

Don’t forget DSA.


104 posted on 12/30/2012 5:29:24 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: FreeAtlanta
The anti-mormons campaigned tirelessly everywhere.

I wouldn't say it was anti-mormon. Maybe anti-liberal. Romney did sign an 'assault weapon' ban when he was governor.

Before you get riled, my last ex-wife was raise Mormon. I don't have nothin' again' em. Learned a lot about long-term storage from 'em.

/johnny

105 posted on 12/30/2012 5:30:13 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: hiredhand

I thought it was great. Granny told the liberals to quit whining and complaining about the greedy rich guys taking everything because you’ve got more today than most of mankind has ever had. In fact, you’ve got too damn much.


106 posted on 12/30/2012 5:32:48 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Romney is a progressive republican-Democrat and Obama is a Democratic Socialist Neo-statist. The real conservative anti-liberal candidate was Michele Bachmann and at the end the best one left was Rick Santorum. Sorry, But Gingrich was flawed.


107 posted on 12/30/2012 5:34:09 PM PST by Mozilla
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To: Salamander
Like the part where it gave states the right to secede.

Another backwards thinker... The Constitution doesn't give rights. It gives limited powers to the federal government.

The States, in Constitutional Convention, gave those limited and listed powers to the federal government.

But the Constitution doesn't give any rights, even if it lists some to make damn sure and certain they don't get stepped on by federal government (not that it helped).

/johnny

108 posted on 12/30/2012 5:34:31 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ConservaTexan
The line will likely run north to south, near Harrisburg, PA, I'd guess.
109 posted on 12/30/2012 5:34:31 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: grumpygresh

***** “I would rather choose my field of battle. If the cops are going door to door, making your stand at the doorstep is futile.” *******

They don’t have enough people or assets to make it to my door or my neighbors door if my weapons are available, functioning and used as they were deigned and built for.

The whole point is to make your Stand before they are at your doorstep. If they are at your doorstep they must have put you to the head of the line.

TT

See my Tag to see just how far down this Rathole we are


110 posted on 12/30/2012 5:34:46 PM PST by TexasTransplant (This needs to go viral http://vimeo.com/52009124 please watch it)
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To: Secret Agent Man
That is what they had planned for 2009 until Howard Dean popped his mouth off and let the cat out of the bag.

Hillary then took a trip overseas and low and behold there was an assassination plot on Hillary.

Since it was Hillary nobody gave a damn.

You are right.

It's a good bet there will be a repeat.

111 posted on 12/30/2012 5:35:18 PM PST by IMR 4350
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To: cripplecreek
I still know people like your Granny. I TREASURE them!
112 posted on 12/30/2012 5:36:42 PM PST by hiredhand
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To: CrazyIvan

Thanks. I forgot them. They make damn fine FN clones.


113 posted on 12/30/2012 5:38:00 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Eaker
Speak for yourself Sally because you do NOT speak for we men.

Right..I've seen several men in this video. Well...they gave up their guns without a fight and nobody was around to help them against the fascists cops.

We always go back to that poem...I did not do anything because I did not have a gun and then at the end it was no one left to help me..
114 posted on 12/30/2012 5:38:46 PM PST by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
So, these tyrants are simply going to move on ahead to get rid of our God-given 2nd Amendment rights? Which ones are next?

If they successfully persist in this, they do so in direct violation of the Constitution. They will no longer be one of "us" and should not expect to be treated as such. Instead, they will be seen by many as a domestic tyranny and conquering power - and justly so!

What they are purposely provoking by using the excuse of "mass murder" to take away one of our most bedrock rights is much more likely to end in genuine mass murder than fix that currently minute problem - and if it turns to violence it doesn't much matter which side "wins" in the end.

Civil wars are unbelievably ugly and and bloody. Nobody in their right mind should want one or provoke one. It is a horror that usually burns brightly and indiscriminately until either one side or the other wins and imposes their will on the vanquished by more violence - or until somebody stronger from the outside steps in to stop the carnage. In our case, that is unlikely to happen. However, there would be plenty of vultures circling high to swoop in and feast on the bloody pieces. In every instance, it ends in national and personal agonies with the worst extremes.

But, here these fiends are... encouraging it, courting it, for their own nefarious ends!

If they persist, this will not end well. Not at all. For anybody - except the vultures.

115 posted on 12/30/2012 5:38:55 PM PST by Gritty (I don't believe that people should be able to own guns-Barack Obama response to John Lott, 1996)
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To: Hot Tabasco
If I'm dead, it's not my concern anymore.

/johnny

116 posted on 12/30/2012 5:40:02 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Well said!,

I am with ya....

117 posted on 12/30/2012 5:40:11 PM PST by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” TJ.)
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To: Longbow1969
There was the previous assault weapons ban and far more restrictions on our 2nd amendment rights in the past, yet I don't recall much in the way of resistance.

"The Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB), or Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act, was a subtitle of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, a federal law in the United States that included a prohibition on the manufacture for civilian use of certain semi-automatic firearms, so called "assault weapons". The 10-year ban was passed by Congress on September 13, 1994, and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton the same day. The ban only applied to weapons manufactured after the date of the ban's enactment.

The law also banned possession of illegally imported or manufactured firearms, but did not ban possession or sale of pre-existing 'assault weapons' or previously factory standard magazines that were legally redefined as large capacity ammunition feeding devices. This provision for pre-ban firearms created higher prices in the market for such items, which still exist due to several states adopting their own assault weapons ban."

Know your history. This time around it is a lot different.

118 posted on 12/30/2012 5:44:34 PM PST by snippy_about_it
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To: FlingWingFlyer
The Obamas are ging to end up like the Ceaușescus.
119 posted on 12/30/2012 5:46:22 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Gritty
they do so in direct violation of the Constitution

That one is funny - where were you these last 4 years??? We don't even have a SCOTUS to defend the Constitution anymore. So who is going to fight for It??? Congress? Us? Right...we can't even fight for our right to vote even when we have proof that all was rigged. The Constitution? What Constitution?
120 posted on 12/30/2012 5:46:31 PM PST by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: American Dream 246

When the first American Revolution started, only about 21% of the patriots supported it.
Most wanted it to just go away and some bent over for the British.


122 posted on 12/30/2012 5:48:26 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Video - Obama 2008 - "I Am Not Going To Take Your Guns Away, That Just Ain't True
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkUpp22fHyw

And we all know what Obama's promise is worth!

123 posted on 12/30/2012 5:48:45 PM PST by preacher (Communism has only killed 100 million people: Let's give it another chance!)
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To: hiredhand

“about page... circa 2010 or so...”

You must be very young to be so arrogant and to believe something from 2010 is soooo faaaarrrr back like “back in the day” or something. Wow. 2010. You’re such a prophet.

Too bad you are cowardly enough to simply run to the end of your chain and bark at all the passing dogs on their way to the fight.


124 posted on 12/30/2012 5:49:05 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

In the last couple days I have detected an increasing effort to try and demoralize those who would put up resistance with stories of how they’ll all be killed or give up. I would not consider all of this to be coincidental, in fact, it smacks of Tokyo Rose.


125 posted on 12/30/2012 5:49:29 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: PhiloBedo

I think Barry and his wife have underestimated the Americans’ love of freedom. There are still a lot Americans living in this country. At least half of the population.


126 posted on 12/30/2012 5:50:24 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where can I pick up a 2013 Mayan calendar?)
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To: Quickgun

From the TEXAS Declaration of Independence from Mexico..

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/texdec.asp

“It has demanded us to deliver up our arms, which are essential to our defence, the rightful property of freemen, and formidable only to tyrannical governments.”

THE RIGHTFUL PROPERTY OF FREEMEN! Even Texas understood it!


127 posted on 12/30/2012 5:50:38 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: Venturer

You assume wrongly that there aren’t militias formed and more forming.


128 posted on 12/30/2012 5:51:10 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: healy61

******* “The last time Obama put forth a package with his full weight behind it, he was wooing Reggie Love.” *******

Thanks ... I really didn’t need that word picture

It may be correct but it ain’t right.

TT

Please watch the movie in my tag... it needs to go viral ...


129 posted on 12/30/2012 5:52:54 PM PST by TexasTransplant (This needs to go viral http://vimeo.com/52009124 please watch it)
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To: grumpygresh

“Better to join other patriots and engage in organized resistance”

Politically, yes. But you were mentioning cops at the door. And you are correct, thats a losers game to allow yourself to be fixed and reduced by a superior force. Confronted at home, you are a cooperative citizen.

But armed resistance to a totalitarian is best done through a leaderless, unorganized cell structure. A cell can even be one person. The cells. while unable to betray other elements are not really alone. They share a commonly understood philosophy and goal, and all would instinctively know when, what, etc. Thats the modern way.
A classic example is the IRA vs Sein Fein. The philosphophical leaders cannot lead anyone to you, because they communicate only via the media etc.

It’s a very tough nut to crack. Best of all, leaderless resistance was developed in the USA in the early 60s to guide resisters in their efforts after a communist victory over America. Hey,,,come to think of it,,,,oh, nevermind,,


130 posted on 12/30/2012 5:53:03 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

“The anti-Romneys campaigned tirelessly here and everywhere .They are as much to blame for this mess as the Obama vote fraudsters and the Obama legitimate voters.”

Yes they are as much to blame. And also all those that didn’t vote against Obama or to defeat Obama, ALL of these groups are also responsible for the destruction of America and of our freedom and individual rights.


131 posted on 12/30/2012 5:53:57 PM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: ez
Water. Duck's back.

/johnny

132 posted on 12/30/2012 5:53:57 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: FreeAtlanta

“The anti-Romneys campaigned tirelessly here and everywhere .They are as much to blame for this mess as the Obama vote fraudsters and the Obama legitimate voters.”

Yes they are as much to blame. And also all those that didn’t vote against Obama or to defeat Obama, ALL of these groups are also responsible for the destruction of America and of our freedom and individual rights.

We tried reasoning with them but instead got shouted down.


133 posted on 12/30/2012 5:55:01 PM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: grumpygresh

“Better to join other patriots and engage in organized resistance”

Politically, yes. But you were mentioning cops at the door. And you are correct, thats a losers game to allow yourself to be fixed and reduced by a superior force. Confronted at home, you are a cooperative citizen.

But armed resistance to a totalitarian is best done through a leaderless, unorganized cell structure. A cell can even be one person. The cells. while unable to betray other elements are not really alone. They share a commonly understood philosophy and goal, and all would instinctively know when, what, etc. Thats the modern way.
A classic example is the IRA vs Sein Fein. The philosphophical leaders cannot lead anyone to you, because they communicate only via the media etc.

It’s a very tough nut to crack. Best of all, leaderless resistance was developed in the USA in the early 60s to guide resisters in their efforts after a communist victory over America. Hey,,,come to think of it,,,,oh, nevermind,,


134 posted on 12/30/2012 5:56:27 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: svcw
When the first American Revolution started, only about 21% of the patriots supported it.

When we had our first revolution we had real MEN. Not what we have now. We had George Washington. Even if we had one now (Sarah Palin) they don't even have the guts to fight anymore!!!

The 20% of real men we had then were real men - ready to die for their country. Can you count on any even in the army who will come on our side to save the country from this dictator? DO YOU? Do you remember how the generals and such reacted after Forthood? They said they would rather see the dead Americans than break the PR system. Don't remember that? I do.

So tell me who will REALLY fight for America? I am curious. Cops won't do it either. They were against the citizens in New Orleans and let the thugs and criminals free. So what's left? The metro guys? Gays? Cell phones addicts - text addicts - me me me crowd or the welfare and food stamps zombies?

I am listening.
135 posted on 12/30/2012 5:56:27 PM PST by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: angelcindy

Nothing I would like to see better than Obama hunkered down in the White House like Salvador Allende in 1973.


136 posted on 12/30/2012 5:57:07 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: ez
I agree with you. However, a few pictures from the Hitler's days and some of the other dictator regimes might just wake them up. Face it, it you can die preserving your Freedom to keep and bear arms or die as an unarmed citizen by the “The One’s Brown Shirts” for any crime. The choice is theirs. For some reason alot of the present day populace think that everything will be peaches and cream when the nation is disarmed.
137 posted on 12/30/2012 5:58:14 PM PST by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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To: MinorityRepublican; All
Interesting Slant on things......

A blogger added up the deer license sales in just a handful of states and arrived at a striking conclusion: There were over 600,000 hunters this season in the state of Wisconsin. Allow me to restate that number: Over the last several months, Wisconsin's hunters became the eighth largest army in the world. More men under arms than in Iran. More than France and Germany combined. These men deployed to the woods of a single American state, Wisconsin, to hunt with firearms, and no one was killed.

That number pales in comparison to the 750,000 who hunted the woods of Pennsylvania and Michigan's 700,000 hunters, all of whom have now returned home safely. Toss in a quarter million hunters in West Virginia and it literally establishes the fact that the hunters of those four states alone would comprise the largest army in the world. And then add in the total number of hunters in the other 46 states. It's millions more.

The point?

America will forever be safe from foreign invasion with that kind of home-grown firepower.

Hunting....it's not just a way to fill the freezer..It's a matter of national security.

That's why all enemies, foreign and domestic, want to see us disarmed. foreign and domestic Translation: No Hawaiian birth certificate.

Overall it's true,so if we disregard some assumptions that hunters don't possess the same skills as soldiers,the question would still remain...what army of 2 million would want to face 30, 40, 50 million armed citizens.

138 posted on 12/30/2012 5:58:35 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: American Dream 246

Be Prepared.


139 posted on 12/30/2012 6:01:04 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Democrat_media
You lost.

You put up a liberal, and your liberal lost. Get over it.

The GOP that put up the liberal and pulled the dirty tricks and cheated, are to blame. Not the people that stood on principle and didn't vote for your liberal.

You know, the one that signed into law the 'assault weapon' ban when he was governor...

You want the GOP to win, get control of your establishment and push a conservative, instead of smash-mouthing conservatives like Rove did.

/johnny

140 posted on 12/30/2012 6:01:26 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Venturer

If he comes he will die !


141 posted on 12/30/2012 6:04:15 PM PST by Renegade
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To: svcw
Two acronyms:

IED

EFP

142 posted on 12/30/2012 6:04:15 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: American Dream 246
Cops won't do it either. They were against the citizens in New Orleans and let the thugs and criminals free.

To compare N.O. cops to anyone in fly-over country is laughable.

/johnny

143 posted on 12/30/2012 6:04:57 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: hiredhand
The problem with what I suggested is that most people don't understand the essence of warfare at its core. Far too many people (especially young-ish males) have the idea that they're going to meet the enemy on a hillside 300 meters away on a nice day and that they'll die in glory and for a worthy cause...quickly... with a single shot... from a distance.

I hear you loud and clear. I'm just going to say from my perspective it's a damn' shame that my generation (I'm 50) has sat on our collective asses and done NOTHING to prevent what's happening to our country.

Voting? Please. Voting's for losers. The WINNERS are the ones who count the ballots!

I see very little - if any - difference between the R's and D's anymore - and haven't for years. They all wink and nod at each other once they're off-camera. They know how the game is played - they keep their power and that's how they like it. Every once in awhile the deck chairs get shuffled and someone new is in the White House (or Senate, or House) but the game never changes.

I've been quietly hoping since I was in my early 30's that the war to take our country back would happen BEFORE my kids had to fight it. I've been watching, waiting, patiently. Almost 20 years have now passed. My oldest son is 16. My youngest is 14. Both know how to shoot (and not just on their video game consoles.)

Not that I've been "itching for the fight" but I at least wanted it to happen at a time when I would be the one to fight it and not my children!

Almost 20 years have gone by. I'm 50. I've had 4 major back surgeries. I can't physically run. Most days I'm lucky to be standing vertically and walking. If the fight comes now, so be it. As long as I can get my sons and family to safety first, I don't really give a damn' what happens to me. I'm the guy who doesn't have a choice but to stand and fight at this point.

Again, I'm not "itching for the fight" but if it comes - bring it on. I'm ready.

144 posted on 12/30/2012 6:05:34 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: MinorityRepublican

The answer is simple. If I find out that active confiscation is taking place, I will consider it an act of war and will react accordingly. I expect any patriot to do the same. There will be much blood if he tries this because there are many, many of us that will NOT give up our guns.

Right now, guns are the only tool that we, the people have to defend our other constitutional rights. Given how hard they’re trying to take away the rest of them, it’s obvious that they want to completely undermine the constitution. And confiscating guns is the only way to complete the task.

It worked in China, Nazi Germany, Russia - it will work here if we don’t dedicate our lives to saving the country.

When/if TSHTF, hit back!


145 posted on 12/30/2012 6:07:02 PM PST by meyer (Proud member of the 53%.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

“You plan the wars you masters of men plan the wars and point the way and we will point the gun.”
Dalton Trumbo, `Johnny Got His Gun’

Maybe citing socialists will show them their error.


146 posted on 12/30/2012 6:07:45 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Salamander

Of course you know the Constitution does not discuss when, how or if a state may seceed. Not a single word. This clearly kicks us over to the 10th amendment;

“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people”

Sounds like a state can decide. The civil war settled what hapens when an industrial, populous region of the nation fights a sparsely populated agricultural region,,,nothing more.


147 posted on 12/30/2012 6:07:45 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Not the people that stood on principle and didn't vote for your liberal.

I don't think these jackasses in Washington can wrap their heads around the fact that there are voters in this country who aren't corrupted like they are...

148 posted on 12/30/2012 6:10:10 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: crosshairs
What we need to do is appeal to the members of the House and Senate and see how important it is to them to continue to exist. They may think more rationally about the consequences to their personal selves.

I can only think of one way to get that message across.

149 posted on 12/30/2012 6:10:23 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: ConservaTexan

There is a reason he choose to be known as Lincoln.

He has now used obamacare to impoverish and criminalize Christians who won’t pay for abortion pills in their businesses. Now he’s going after the rest of the conservatives. Most will be submissive and abandon the country and themselves. But many won’t. Bammy and his ATF goons know that.

Whitey will finally be quota equal to blacks in prisons. Oh well. Political crimes are not crimes of moral offense.


150 posted on 12/30/2012 6:11:10 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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