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Why Does Anybody Need a 30-Round Magazine?
American Thinker ^ | January 3, 2013 | William A. Levinson

Posted on 01/02/2013 11:52:28 PM PST by neverdem

Senator Dianne Feinstein's latest divide-and-conquer attack on the Second Amendment has made even Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV) a sucker for the argument that private citizens do not need high-capacity magazines. These include not only 30-round rifle magazines, but 17-round magazines for handguns like the Glock.

Why does anybody need a high capacity magazine? If Senator Manchin were to educate himself by, for example, attending Front Sight's four-day defensive handgun class, he would learn the two primary answers:

(1) Failure to stop the aggressor, and

(2) Multiple aggressors

Failure to Stop

The classic .38 caliber revolver, with a capacity of six rounds, was the standard sidearm of the United States Army during the Moro insurrection in the Philippines. The Army found at least one dead Army officer with an empty sidearm, and his head split open by a machete or similar weapon. They also found the soldier's killer, who had finally bled to death. Six rounds of .38 were therefore not enough to convince even one determined attacker.

Police instructor Masaad Ayoob's The Truth About Self Protection adds an incident in which a female police officer saw a crazed gunman murder a woman, who then shot her as well before she could do anything. "She lay helpless as she watched a neighbor empty a .22 rifle into the killer; the neighbor then had to club the madman down with the empty rifle, again and again, before he succumbed."

Ayoob does not report the size of the .22's magazine, but the Moro insurrection exemplifies why even a 30-round rifle clip might not be enough to stop a crazed and determined attacker, such as one hopped up on a drug like PCP. "He had 32 Krag balls through him and was only stopped by the 33rd bullet -- a Colt .45 slug through..."...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 30round; banglist; fromeachaccording; governmentuberalles; guncontrol; magazine; toeachaccording; whydoesanybodyneed
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To: neverdem
[”He had 32 Krag balls through him and was only stopped by the 33rd bullet — a Colt .45 slug through both ears.”]

My great, great uncle first recounted the above story to me when I was a boy. The Philippine insurgent, from a tribe of mutated bushmen, was 17 feet tall and weighed 800 pounds. And he was the village runt. Uncle Elmer was captured by one of these slant-eyed giants who dropped Elmer into his pants pocket. Uncle escaped by cutting his way out with his bayonet.

101 posted on 01/03/2013 9:36:49 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: neverdem
Why does anyone need a magazine that holds more than 30 rounds?

My Brother-in-law asked this question on New Year's Day.

My answer: Do a Google search for "home invasions by multiple attackers" and get back to me on that.

Then I grabbed my smartphone and showed him this:

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. -- It's enough to turn your stomach. At 4:28 a.m., armed street punks busted into a St. Petersburg home. Inside were 41-year-old Richard Shaw and his 18-year-old son. What happened next is chilling.

The family's surveillance camera captured screaming, the sounds of a struggle, and then a gunshot. When it was over, Richard Shaw lay dead, and the thugs ran from the house after robbing the place.

Just 20 minutes prior, another home invasion took place just blocks away, involving similar suspects with a similar MO.

Home owner Gregg Gordon, 51, was struck violently in the head, and his home was ransacked.

Cops say it's likely the crimes are connected.

The law says those punks should not have been allowed to have guns.

But they did.

You have a pretty nice place here. Secluded. Country estate. But in an emergency how long would it take for police to show up? Remember, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

102 posted on 01/03/2013 9:45:36 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: neverdem
Why does anyone need a magazine that holds more than 30 rounds?

My Brother-in-law asked this question on New Year's Day.

My answer: Do a Google search for "home invasions by multiple attackers" and get back to me on that.

Then I grabbed my smartphone and showed him this:

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. -- It's enough to turn your stomach. At 4:28 a.m., armed street punks busted into a St. Petersburg home. Inside were 41-year-old Richard Shaw and his 18-year-old son. What happened next is chilling.

The family's surveillance camera captured screaming, the sounds of a struggle, and then a gunshot. When it was over, Richard Shaw lay dead, and the thugs ran from the house after robbing the place.

Just 20 minutes prior, another home invasion took place just blocks away, involving similar suspects with a similar MO.

Home owner Gregg Gordon, 51, was struck violently in the head, and his home was ransacked.

Cops say it's likely the crimes are connected.

The law says those punks should not have been allowed to have guns.

But they did.

You have a pretty nice place here. Secluded. Country estate. But in an emergency how long would it take for police to show up? Remember, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

103 posted on 01/03/2013 9:45:53 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Wonder if DIFI is for having women justify and register themselves for exercising their “right” to abortions? This is supposedly a constitutionally-protected “right”. Let’s be consistent here. After all she’s worried about the slaughter of innocents in both cases, right?


104 posted on 01/03/2013 9:46:05 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: neverdem

Why do libertine socialists need to get high and oppose our Second Amendment rights? Why do they need to try to attach their drug legalization efforts to our Second Amendment rights? Why do they need to have their rich, “progressive” brats murdering kids in movie theaters and schools and creating some of the most suspicious and concealed criminal cases in US history?


105 posted on 01/03/2013 10:00:09 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: jonrick46
Why does the chicken cross the road?

To show the armadillo it can be done.........

106 posted on 01/03/2013 10:26:33 AM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: neverdem

To those that ask that question: “Need” is never a government concern. The government doesn’t get to decide what we can have. The government is the people and you people need to stay out of other people’s business.


107 posted on 01/03/2013 10:29:24 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: CodeToad

Exactly!


108 posted on 01/03/2013 10:30:34 AM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: neverdem

“cranio-ocular cavity”

Seriously?


109 posted on 01/03/2013 12:09:45 PM PST by jjm2111
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To: neverdem
One doesn't really "need" a 30 round magazine until one really needs one.

It is not up to some puffed up potentate in the distant and utterly dysfunctional District Of Corruption to decide for any American citizen when or if they "need" one! The Constitution affirms we - THE PEOPLE - have the right to keep and bear arms! That includes military pattern arms. That includes the magazines which feed them. That includes the ammo which services them...

"In a man to man fight, the winner is he who has one more round in his magazine" - Irwin Rommel

110 posted on 01/03/2013 12:20:56 PM PST by Gritty (Firearms are the people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence-George Washington)
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To: neverdem; All
The reason for 20+ mags?

Aside from defending against more than one perp, here are examples from the NYT: "One Bullet Can Kill, but Sometimes 20 don't, survivors Show"...


111 posted on 01/03/2013 1:25:42 PM PST by QT3.14 ( USA: Likely only country in world history to adopt policies and laws that ensure self-destruction)
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To: BuffaloJack
Large capacity magazines are for those people who are lousy shots.

And people who have lots of targets...

Last time I checked, you ca take your rifle out deer hunting with a 30-round magazine (full) here if you want to.

If you exceed your bag limit, that's a no-no. If you need more than the first couple of shots to fill it (whitetail deer), you should practice more.

112 posted on 01/03/2013 5:21:33 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: neverdem

Because my M1A isn’t belt-fed....


113 posted on 01/03/2013 5:23:46 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: neverdem
Senator Feinstein, If I have to explain, it isn't likely you are capable of understanding my answer.

So trust me.

114 posted on 01/03/2013 5:50:35 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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