Skip to comments.OUTRAGE! BofA Freezes Licensed Gun Manufacturer’s Deposits “We Believe You Should Not Be Selling
Posted on 01/06/2013 12:21:21 AM PST by lowbridge
On December 29, the owner of American Spirit Arms; Joe Sirochman relayed this chilling news via Facebook:
All, My name is Joe Sirochman owner of American Spirit Arms and I wanted to share my recent experience with Bank of America .(which we have been doing business with for over 10 years) . Everyone is familiar with the latest increase in guns sales , dealers selling out of inventory , Manufacturers back logged for months , large revenue all generated in the last two weeks . American Spirit Arms is no exception to the overwhelming demand . What we have experienced is that our web site orders have jumped 500 % causing our web site E commerce processing larger Deposits to BANK OF AMERICA ..Well, this through up a huge RED Flag with Bank of America . So they decided to hold the deposits for further review , meaning that the orders/payments that were coming in through the web ,( being paid by the customer and that were shipped out by American Spirit Arms ),the BANK was keeping (UNDER REVIEW )..as you could imagine this made me furious
After countless hours on the phone with BANK OF AMERICA I finally got a Manager in the right department that told me the reason that the deposits were on hold for FURTHER REVIEW
HER EXACT WORDS WERE
.. WE BELIEVE YOU SHOULD NOT BE SELLING GUNS and PARTS ON THE INTERNET
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I took some rollout work (out of desparation) for BofA through a more worthless crowd called the Roelker group. After that experience, I would pick up cans on the side of the road before I ever got in any dealings with them.
Their IT types cry like little kids, the branches behind the scenes in most are just filthy, and they cried about paying for anything.
Romney wasn't much of a prize. He could have run as a Democrat, which is exactly why the GOP-e preferred him. It's impossible for a Ronald Reagan type to get elected now because of the demographics. The only thing that could possibly bring America back is something very terrible, like Iran nuking NYC, total world war, or a plague wiping out millions of city slickers.
I’m a BOA client by default (Merrill Lynch clients absorbed by BOA).
Seriously, the best custom service ever. They have saved my account from theft twice.
Bank local. We’ve banked for decades with a local bank where we knew the founders and still are on a first name basis with the people in the branch we usually use. But they were bought out and now we’re thinking of moving to a savings and loan that is only in Kansas.
The BofA ia nothing but a lackey of the Demoncrats and the federal government. With respect to the Constitution of the United States of America (Long may the Constitution live!) the federal government is noting more than an illegal criminal enterprise.
The current exercise of the second amendment rights is the direct response of the people to the current state of the government. Only a fool would not recognize that response.
The battle between the people and that illegal crimal enterprise, of which I speak, draws closer every day. It will take only one foolish act by the government, perhaps in the belief that they can win, to precipitate that battle.
I find it remarkable that some well meaning folk actually believe that the Constutution is dead. To them I ask, How do you kill an idea? The Constitution is noting more than an idea put down on paper. It lives in the hearts of the American people and can never be killed.
Those that pervert of our government; not just politicians, my friends, will pay the actual price in real blood when that day comes. And it is coming soon. Doubt me? Ask those that are are armed or currently arming themselves.
You cannot kill an idea. The government belongs to the people and can be abolished at will. It is more simple than most people think.
Oligarchs, politicians, government and corporate theives beware. The day will come when you will pay the price for you perversions. The American people will not put up with your actions for much longer.
The day will come when the American people will hold their own equivalent of the Nuremburg trials. Hope to see you righteous believers of “the idea” there.
Andrew Jackson (farewell address)
“There is, perhaps, no one of the powers conferred on the Federal Government so liable to abuse as the taxing power. . . Congress has no right under the Constitution to take money from the people unless it is required to execute some one of the specific powers intrusted to the Government; and if they raise more than is necessary for such purposes, it is an abuse of the power of taxation, and unjust and oppressive.”
I recently worked for BofA in Charlotte-
I WOULD NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH THEM AGAIN after seeing what I saw. This was the closest thing I saw in the private sector that resembled a fat, bloated government bureacracy staffed with a very large percentage of affirmative action hires. (very large percent)
I have no idea how they have not gone out of business
Thank you CondorFlight. What you said is so very true. If, however, we look at the broader spectrum of which the government has involved itself, and legislated thereunto, perhaps as much as 80 percent or more has been accomplished outside of the purview of the Constitution and is therefor illegal. It is not only outrageous acts that are illegal, but any acts or legislation that is without the law as expressed by the Constitution. This includes twisting the Constitution such as the current use of the 14th Amendment.
This places the government outside the law. Outlaws.
More of Andy Jackson’s dangerous words:
” In your [the people’s] hands is rightfully placed the sovereignty of the country, and to you everyone placed in authority is ultimately responsible. It is always in your power to see that the wishes of the people are carried into faithful execution, and their will, when once made known, must sooner or later be obeyed; and while the people remain, as I trust they ever will, uncorrupted and incorruptible, and continue watchful and jealous of their rights, the Government is safe, and the cause of freedom will continue to triumph over all its enemies.”
(No wonder they won’t teach this in history courses anymore.)
One more sample of Jackson (too good to miss out on...) :
“You have the highest of human trusts committed to your care. Providence has showered on this favored land blessings without number, and has chosen you as the guardians of freedom, to preserve it for the benefit of the human race. May He who holds in His hands the destinies of nations make you worthy of the favors He has bestowed and enable you, with pure hearts and pure hands and sleepless vigilance, to guard and defend to the end of time the great charge He has committed to your keeping.”
He should tell them to get lost and give him HIS money so he can do business with a more American bank.
“The times, we live in, are in fact lawless times.”
You got that right and it’s all comes down to who’s going
to do anything about it. It’s proven that the Republican party is useless in this matter. The ballot box is corrupt
to the core which leads us to our final box. BLOAT.
When BOA's social policies turned hard left, I dumped them faster than a Hillary disappearing act.
My firm policy is to never feed any hands that are biting me.
Such is so. I dont think that the hearts and minds of the American people have changed that much since the times of Old Hickory. In the same vien as you quoted, Ike gave us his superfine warning of the “Military-Industrial Complex”. And so it came to pass in the early twentyfirst century...
My fiancee’ and I can feel his pain. We both had commercial accts with BOFA for years. They are so bad we both finally closed out our accounts. I only hope I live long enough to finally see them go under like they should have 6 years ago.
No one can contest any point of your statement. Any member of the Republican party who is not a pea-brain should be thinling of what they will do next. As should anyone who is sick and tired of our current government. What about you Slambat, any ideas?
Indeed the manager may be looking for work soon.
Indeed the manager may be looking for work soon.
On October 15, 2012 B(arrack) O(bama) of A(ss) became a non entity to me and my Family.
It sounds to me like BOA was just making sure something illegal wasn’t being done.
People need to calm down
What about you Slambat, any ideas?
Start with state legislators and lieutenant governors. Get
voter Id passed in as many states as possible and get rid of
Democratic National Committee v Republican National Committee
Case No. 09-4615 (C.A. 3, Mar. 8, 2012)
(check out section “e”)
First step Get rid of the RINOS.
Second step is to crack down on voter corruption. If that
don’t work, then succession.
The last thing we need is armed conflict.
Sounds a bit suspicious. Didn’t think banks could arbitrarily freeze accounts.
BofA started out as Bank of Italy in San Francisco way back. I think they changed the name to be more of an American sounding institution.
Granted, if we can get back the power of vote which we seem to have lost. The Rinos now control the Republican party to an extent that IMHO conservatives and middle-of-the-roaders have no other apparent choice except to leave the Republican party.
No one in his right mind wants to use violence as a means to accomplish change. My deepest fear is that we will be forced into violence as a result of those that may believe that they can use extreme means to permanently disarm the populace. If that ever occurs we will have no choice but to resist with violence. History tells me that we are so far down the road to a totalitarian state that we will soon have not have the ballot to make change possible. Do you not believe that at this time preparation is a very prudent course of action?
i suppose if anyone still had bofa accts yu could do the same to them -
Closing the acct because i don’t believe banks should provide services that require social security numbers to illegal foreigners who don’t have them.
Closing the acct because i don’t believe you as a bank should express any opinions on my 2nd amendment guaranteed protected rights to self-defense.
“Do you not believe that at this time preparation is a very prudent course of action?”
Sure. Gold, silver, medical supplies, food, ammo just to
name a few. Knowledge is also important. Like how to farm,
make soap, canning and preserving, etc. Also we meed to pay
close attention to who and what surrounds us. Eventually we
will simply need to say no more and that is what we will
need to be most prepared for. Your bug-out buggy may well
be needed to get you to the front of the war. Your food and
ammo supply may be needed to sustain a troop. Also keep in
mind that if the people are forced to stand up to a tyrannical government,
it may well not be just ours but many others.
I sell telcom services and have several customers who are banks and there is no way that is company policy. Someone might blurt out their personal opinion and feign ownership of “a mistake” by asserting ownership of a process they had nothing to with but, find an oportune moment to express their opinion through a straw man technique and shift it “A Higher Authority”.
I see this all the time. Most times it’s benign and I ignore it. Then there other tiimes it interefers with the buying process or client management.
Few employees have the ability to say yes, so sometimes they resort to synthetic control for various self serving reasons.
Some one screwed up. Intentionally and out of malice or a series of mistakes in process. Probably a bit of both.
Not BofA policy otherwise you woukd see this from other gun mfrs, suppliers and stores.
There arn’t any others as yet.
I didn’t read the whole thread, I’m getting tired of just listening to the game blaring in the other part of the house.
Oh, it has been much longer than that. I dumped their ass in the early ‘80s because they employed “Amish” tellers who were rude and dumb as sticks, and who gave one of our credit cards to her baby daddy, who got caught trying to buy clothing with it.
We knew something was wrong when we got our “cards,” but there was only one in the (sealed and un-tampered-with) envelope. Then I got a call at work that “someone” was trying to use the missing card, and where was my husband. I said that we worked at the same place and he was right there with me.
I closed the account and went to a different bank. Never looked back.
Must congratulate you as your ideas do seem very prudent indeed. If a majority of those of conservative bent could become that prepared it would go a long way to assuring our freedoms. Cost of those preparations is a factor as well as time to accomplish such a plan. Again, well done, as you have come very close to striking the nail on the head dead center.
Unfortunatly, as so many times occur, many of us will probably be caught flat-footed and have to be twenty-first century minute men. Can’t say I wouldn’t be proud though to carry such a moniker.