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COMPLETE: Ben Shapiro CUTS Piers Morgan DOWN (youtube video--great stuff!)
youtube.com ^ | 1/10/2013

Posted on 01/11/2013 12:12:12 PM PST by RoosterRedux

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KEYWORDS: banglist; benshapiro; guncontrol; piersmorgan; secondamendment; thedailymail; twitbrit; unitedkingdom
Shapiro nails Morgan to the wall!
1 posted on 01/11/2013 12:12:21 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux
Hey Pierce!!!

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2 posted on 01/11/2013 12:51:15 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: RoosterRedux

This is why Piers is doing a “health show” tonight. His ass is sore from being kicked repeatedly.


3 posted on 01/11/2013 12:55:11 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: RoosterRedux

That was your take? Shapiro looked like a complete idiot and a crazy person. He did our cause no good at all. Hopefully we will not be judged by this loon. Most gun owners are responsible sane people.


4 posted on 01/11/2013 12:55:24 PM PST by DallasSun
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To: DallasSun

How is that? He was able to shoot down Piers on everything he said. He has a tendency to speak quickly and that is the only way to get a word in on the asshole Left.

He is correct. The reason for the Second Amendment IS that governments by their very nature are ALL tyranny’s in waiting. If you don’t believe me stop paying you VOLUNTARY income taxes and see the tyranny brought down on you!


5 posted on 01/11/2013 1:02:09 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: RoosterRedux

They keep on talking back and forth about assault weapons, neither of them realizing that the large majority of the AR-15s in civilian hands are of the semi-automatic type and are therefore not assault weapons.

I can forgive Morgan because he is a lefty, but Shapiro should know better.


6 posted on 01/11/2013 1:02:28 PM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Hm, it’s gonna be tricky offing Shapiro.Even the blindest of the sheeple might start asking questions.


7 posted on 01/11/2013 1:04:51 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Jim from C-Town

I could not disagree more. As a gun owner, I am embarrassed to be associated with this moron. He did not make Morgan look any worse than Morgan had already made himself look. He simply made himself look like a loon.


8 posted on 01/11/2013 1:12:11 PM PST by DallasSun
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To: DallasSun
He fought fire with fire...and IMHO did a fine job.

The bottom line of the 2nd Amendment is hot hunting and target practice...it is defense against tyranny. Shapiro drove this point home well without sounding like he was into conspiracy theories.

And, I thought his point about his grandparents (German Jews, IIRC) not being so easily dispatched by the NAZI's if they had been armed was excellent. Another major point IMO was when he said history is replete with Government usurpation of power to the detriment of the citizenry.

Liberals want to act as though this never happens and it does...frequently.

He made Piers Morgan look sheepish and cowardly.

9 posted on 01/11/2013 1:15:01 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The Communist takeover of America is underway. But to win, they must first disarm us.)
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To: 353FMG
Shapiro made the point that the weapons in question are not "automatic weapons" but semi-autos (one pull, one shot).

That point was pretty clearly made.

10 posted on 01/11/2013 1:18:05 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The Communist takeover of America is underway. But to win, they must first disarm us.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Shapiro nails Morgan to the wall!

So will we be limiting nails now?

11 posted on 01/11/2013 1:18:34 PM PST by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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To: Jim from C-Town

DITTO.


12 posted on 01/11/2013 1:20:07 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The Communist takeover of America is underway. But to win, they must first disarm us.)
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To: DallasSun

What would you have done differently?


13 posted on 01/11/2013 1:24:48 PM PST by wolf24
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To: ArGee

Only nail guns.;-)


14 posted on 01/11/2013 1:25:01 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The Communist takeover of America is underway. But to win, they must first disarm us.)
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To: DallasSun

If you think he looks like a loon, an idiot and a crazy person, then he must have been doing a good job.


15 posted on 01/11/2013 1:26:50 PM PST by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: beandog

I really like that Shapiro brought up the history of the rise of tyrannies; and I believe at one point (before Morgan interrupted him) he brought up the holocaust.

The left has been ridiculing the concept and basis for the 2nd Amendment and I’m glad that someone presented it and stood by it.


16 posted on 01/11/2013 1:31:43 PM PST by wolf24
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To: RoosterRedux

Did Piers really bring up a letter “penned” by Ronald Reagan in 1994?

RR was dealing with Alzheimers in 1994. Fail.


17 posted on 01/11/2013 1:32:32 PM PST by proudpapa (A school is supposed to be a safe place!' Yeah well so is a womb!)
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To: DallasSun

I disagree. Shapiro appeared knowledgeable and resolute. Morgan sounded ridiculous trying to drum up righteous indignation.


18 posted on 01/11/2013 1:34:28 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: proudpapa

Also absurd was the waving the boxes of medication.

Fail.


19 posted on 01/11/2013 1:36:06 PM PST by wolf24
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To: RoosterRedux

Yes he did, but why did he not tell Morgan outright that neither one is talking about “assault weapons”.

But both continued rambling on about these ‘unmentionable’ weapons.


20 posted on 01/11/2013 1:43:30 PM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: RoosterRedux

SOME OBSERVATIONS REGARDING BEN SHAPIRO, PIERS MORGAN AND MORGAN’s PREVIOUS GUEST — ALEX JONES....

Shapiro states correctly that the Second Amendment is written specifically for the American people to be well armed. They are to form a militia in times of crisis and will be used to protect the people of these united States. Folks this is about your property rights. It is also to have the effect of a counterweight; a deterrent to a government that becomes tyrannical.

It is not to be infringed.

Piers Morgan weaves a familiar script where he insisted on Shapiro to answer his question. If you noticed, the trap is set when Morgan doesn’t allow the guest to answer. He will intentionally interrupt the guest with another question or allegation. He will continue stacking the questions and allegations.

Indeed, Piers Morgan’s strategy is to paint a tapestry of the guest being “insensitive and absurd”.

In legal circles, such tactics would be a form of “leading the witness”, which would not be allowed in a court of law. Granted, the Piers Morgan show is not a court of law. Nevertheless, in any public debate there are rules of engagement. Each side is allowed to respond without constant interruption. Piers Morgan has an annoying habit of not letting his guest finish his point.

Alex Jones was adept in recognizing that the Piers Morgan Show is not a stage for a “fair” debate. Jones did not allow Piers Morgan to weave a web of questions and allegations. Each time Alex Jones fired back with a library of published statistics and facts.

In this regard, Alex Jones took Piers Morgan to the wood shed.

Unfortunately, Jones came off as a ranting, raving loon and his insistence that the US government had something to do with the destruction of the NY twin towers did him no favors.

It is also important noting that Piers Morgan and other anti-gun pundits ask repeatedly:

“Why does anyone need a military assault rifle like that of a AR-15?”

How many times was this question answered by the guests in those interviews?

Ben Shapiro answered it TWICE. It is to have the effect of a counterweight; a deterrent to a government that becomes tyrannical. Our government might not be tyrannical like Stalin or the Nazis now, but there is no guarantee that it won’t slowly evolve that way. THAT is why we need a means of protecting ourselves and DETERRING Tyranny.

Piers Morgan was given this answer and never responded to it.


21 posted on 01/11/2013 1:44:53 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: RoosterRedux

The Bill of Rights is not the bill of needs. Who is this arrogant Piers Morgan to determine what our wants and needs should be? By this reasoning, why should we have any property rights at all. Does a person need to own a house? No, one can rent. Does a person need to own food or water? No, it can be rationed and provided by the government for example.
Does anyone need to own a gun or more specifically a semi-auto rifle? Well, sometimes yes and sometimes not, maybe never, but that should not matter if you live in a free country. Sadly, our country is no longer as free because our masters must determine our needs now.


22 posted on 01/11/2013 1:51:09 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; an EMP confined to DC would be much appreciated)
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To: 353FMG
They keep on talking back and forth about assault weapons, neither of them realizing that the large majority of the AR-15s in civilian hands are of the semi-automatic type and are therefore not assault weapons.

Watch the video again...

Shapiro made that very point and described the difference between full auto and semi auto.

23 posted on 01/11/2013 1:58:05 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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To: DallasSun

I totally disagree. I think he did quite well.

We must stop plying the Leftist game that they are the ones in the right. They are not. Their arguments are vacuous and silly. Shapiro does a very good job of punching back twice as hard.

He should calm himself just a little bit when he talks. go a little slower and that would make all the difference.


24 posted on 01/11/2013 2:14:57 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: RoosterRedux; All
Something Shapiro should have remembered iin relation to the British Morgan subverting American freedoms: 1) “assault rifles” secured America from the tyrannical British rule. 2) American “assault rifle” owners willingly gave them up to defend Britain against Hitler in 1940 as the NRA had a drive for Americans to donate arms to be sent to GB for their homeland defense. Yes, the white cliffs of Dover had home defense soldiers patrolling with American firearms because the British robbed their former WWI soldiers of their rights and arms. 3) Finally, what does the British experience with the IRA (an island nation supposedly immune to border infringement) teach the sentient about national measures to deter illegal gun possession and use?

On all three counts, Morgan would have had three more boot shaped bruises on his fat limey arse.

25 posted on 01/11/2013 2:17:32 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (we)
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To: 353FMG

He was picking his battle carefully and didn’t want to get sidetracked into another valid but slightly off center (to his strategy) argument.


26 posted on 01/11/2013 2:33:57 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The Communist takeover of America is underway. But to win, they must first disarm us.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Excellent!


27 posted on 01/11/2013 2:36:00 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The Communist takeover of America is underway. But to win, they must first disarm us.)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Ben did a great job. He speaks well and knows his facts except the what is a semi-auto. One thing is true. You can talk all you want. Piers is going to not change his mind. Obama is going to try is take our guns. The sun will come up tomorrow.


28 posted on 01/11/2013 2:44:44 PM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: RoosterRedux

I think Shapiro may have been way off the mark in his estimate that it could take 50 to 100 years for the US government to go tyrannical.

Other than that, he did fine.


29 posted on 01/11/2013 2:58:46 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: spodefly
Yup. I think he throw that time period in to get rid of those who would accuse him of being a conspiracy nut.

See the tag line!;-)

30 posted on 01/11/2013 3:14:04 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The Communist takeover of America is underway. But to win, they must first disarm us.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Shapiro needs to switch to decaf a couple hours before events like that.

Would've enjoyed seeing that Brit poof trot out his statist bullshite to Allen West .. esp. the 'your little book' schtick.

31 posted on 01/11/2013 3:20:42 PM PST by tomkat (HELL NO)
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To: DallasSun

Lol, are you still celebrating New Years? The kid was excellent and made Morgan appear the buffoon he is.


32 posted on 01/11/2013 3:33:22 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: DallasSun

Do you actually believe that guns are for shooting paper targets and the occasional squirrel?


33 posted on 01/11/2013 3:35:13 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

No. What exactly did I say that made you think that is what I meant, please?


34 posted on 01/11/2013 5:51:38 PM PST by DallasSun
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To: jwalsh07

He was the one who appeared to be a buffoon. And he is exactly the type we do not want acting as though he is a spokesperson for the second amendment or the Republican party. The mainstream Republicans will be completely turned off by this kind of behaviour. He appeared to be completely insane. We need someone articulate and who makes sense so people will listen and consider our side of the debate. Not a lunatic.


35 posted on 01/11/2013 5:54:06 PM PST by DallasSun
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To: Jim from C-Town

He did not shoot Piers on anything. He was incoherent and appeared to be unbalanced. He represents the fringe which is exactly the kind of people we need to stay away from. The last election said that loud and clear. We have excellent arguments against anyone trying to limit our second amendment rights. We do not need to scream incoherently and appearing to be one of the kooks and nuts of the fringe. He had no substance or credibility and he does not speak for our party.


36 posted on 01/11/2013 5:57:00 PM PST by DallasSun
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To: DallasSun

You were not complimentary of Shapiro or his thesis. Shapiro’s entire thesis is that modern weaponry is necessary to resist a tyrannical government and thus a real need exists for weapons that can do just that in the hands of the populace. He’s right so what’s to hate?


37 posted on 01/11/2013 5:57:37 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Jim from C-Town

If we have nothing to fear from the Government WHY is FEMA,
Homeland Security, and even NOAA purchasing 450 milliom hollow point bullets Target practice???
By the way, those bullets are prohibited by the Geneva Convention


38 posted on 01/11/2013 6:13:06 PM PST by simka
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To: DallasSun

I don’t think he screamed at all. I think he was completely coherent and his idea, like that of Andrew Breitbart himself is to expose the Left for what they are: Liars, crooks and cronies who are little more than O’Bumbler throne sniffers.

He let Morgan have it and took him right off his game from the get go by calling him out for using the death of children to advance a political argument. A tragedy that he uses to bully those who would dare to oppose his political point of view.

As for speaking for the party, I think he portends to speak for himself as a Conservative. That he did quite well. He wasn’t yelling finger pointing or frothing at the mouth.

I am also relatively certain that those that HAVE and DO speak for the party are doing a piss poor job of it. As a matter of fact that has been proved by their continued success, or lack there of, at the ballot box.


39 posted on 01/11/2013 6:15:56 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

You and I will have to agree to disagree. Thank you for your replies.


40 posted on 01/11/2013 6:41:13 PM PST by DallasSun
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To: DallasSun

OK I think we just disagree. People see thinks with their own eyes.


41 posted on 01/11/2013 6:44:48 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Very true, Jim


42 posted on 01/11/2013 6:46:50 PM PST by DallasSun
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To: simka

I fear the government more than most things. They are the only real potential for tyranny is government.


43 posted on 01/11/2013 6:48:09 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: RoosterRedux
“What was your take? Shapiro looked like a complete idiot and a crazy person. He did our cause no good at all. Hopefully we will not be judged by this loon. Most gun owners are responsible sane people.”
So you would prefer a RINO from Congress telling Morgan he is right and looking soooooooooo reasonable?
Line from “White men can't jump” :The difference between you and me is you'd rather look good and miss the shot and I'd rather make the shot.”
Shapiro can play on my team any time. He refused to be bullied and had Morgan on the ropes praying for the bell by the time he was finished with him.
44 posted on 01/12/2013 6:09:04 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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