Posted on 01/18/2013 2:05:46 PM PST by NYer
Oh, a tad.
I've been married roughly 25 years, and I'm freakin' exhausted.
In my experience dealing with young men who are thinking about marriage, the number one fear is not marriage itself. It’s the fear of their spouses deciding that for one reason or another that their husbands are disposable.
And as one of them told me recently, he sees how his own father and his older brother were turned in Child-support/Alimony slaves to their ex’s. He fears that more than nearly everything else. His reaction so far is to just say “No” to the fair sex. He likes women but has a very hard time in trusting them.
“I see this turning into the friday night fight thread.”
Oh, I hope so. My evening is going to be a little dull otherwise.
True, but instead of the pendulum swinging back just enough to straighten things out, it's swinging too far the other way. Increasingly now, it's "men good/women bad." Too many men nowadays sound just like feminazis. "Men are noble victims. Women are evil. Everything is women's fault. The decks are all stacked against men, who are perfect." I don't see how this is going to do anything but make things even worse. Not enough people seem willing to admit that there is plenty of blame to go around on ALL sides, and that we should try to come together. I think people would rather be victims.
I don’t think the guys are threatened by the gal making more $$ as much as the divorce laws that let her walk at any time of her choosing, taking half his stuff. And then children.
It takes two to marry, but only one to divorce.
BINGO!
Sometimes the guy asks for it, like Tiger Woods.
In modern marriage, the man has no status, other than at the will of the woman.
Terms like husband, father, head of household, have no meaning today.
The woman owns the entire family unit, any man, whether first husband, or 3rd husband, are mere visitors, they may be permanent if she chooses, but he has no real footing of his own and his temporary status can be instantly removed at her whim.
I wonder how women would feel about investing their hearts and identity in becoming wives and mothers under the conditions that American men face today, to casually have her children and home taken from her at his whim, with the support of the state, while she has to pay for the privilege.
On top of all you said, may get the “opportunity” to rebuild your life from the ground up in your late 30’s or 40’s.
I know I did. I started over at 44. The financial part has been OK, but the relationship part has been a total flat line. . . in 12 years I have only run into 2 that I would remotely consider.
Men are like trucks ... they drive straighter with a weighted load. Some ‘men’ can’t handle the load. Some don’t want to drive straight. Some would rather be boys with beards.
Plus, every image of marriage from pop culture is of a sexless institution wherein some harpy bitches at you until one of you leaves or dies. The downtrodden dumbassed sex-starved husband is an archetype ... as is the cold, shrew of a wife. Men are taught to be whipped. Women are taught to be nagging. Divorce is a punchline. Vows are a throwaway. Affairs are rampant. Gay ‘marriage’ gets more conversation-time than real marraige.
Its no wonder the institution is struggling.
SnakeDoc
For most modern women, men are objects to be ridiculed and scorned. Look at how many commercials and TV shows portray the husband as the buffoon, and the wife as the smart one who condescendingly tolerates him. Now how many times do you see that situation reversed?
Recently I was at the grocery store; a polite man walked by, nodded and smiled to me and to the fat woman near me, and said, “Good afternoon, ladies.” The fat woman smirked and called after him, “I’d wish you the same, but you’re a man, so you’re not worth it!”
Feminism has ruined women. But, on the other hand, real men are harder and harder to find, too.
People used to have high standards for marriage.
Those days are so far gone, it’s not funny.
I missed that, where is that reflected in the laws?
I think it was Rush after his last div orce make the comment on marriage ....Find a woman you hate and buy her a house......at that time he probably meant it, but silly found another one.....
The missus packed my bags, and as I walked out the front door, she screamed, “I wish you a slow and painful death, you bastard!” “Oh,” I replied, “so now you want me to stay?!”
An old one.
hmm almost.... women are becoming the men they don’t want to marry
to find a husband; keep your legs together until the wedding night
learn how to cook and bake really well
have a desire to bear and raise his children ( stay at home when they are little) AND
allow him to be the man ( let him open doors for you, let him win arguments, and let him watch Sunday sports without being pestered)
really very simple... been married happily for 18+ years
Of course. Some men are jerks.
But the effect of making divorce “no-fault” has had a terrible effect on the concept of the Nuclear Family. And in most cases the woman has the most to gain. It’s not surprising men have gotten trap-shy.
BTW, Tiger Woods’ wife would have been justified under the old “prove-fault” rules. He cheated and rubbed her nose in it.
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