Posted on 01/27/2013 9:05:33 AM PST by EXCH54FE
In the ongoing fevered debate over gun control legislation, registration of firearms is a key flashpoint. “Progressives” insist that nothing could be more reasonable and benign than simply requiring every firearm and firearm owner to be registered with some government entity. Thus, bad guys could be screened out and guns used in crimes could be traced to help catch the criminals. They denounce as paranoid, delusional nonsense the concerns of gun owners that registration would lead to eventual confiscation.
In a “Fact Check” at Time.com intended to dismiss “The Gun Registry Red Herring,” Michael Scherer notes that President Obama’s “Now Is The Time” gun plan issued on January 16 does not call for a federal gun registry. However, the Time piece does acknowledge that in a 2001 interview Obama, then a state senator, stated: “I’ll continue to be in favor of handgun law registration requirements and licensing requirements for training.”
It is reasonable to believe that President Obama still holds to those views and is, at this point, taking a slower, more pragmatic, step-by-step approach to get momentum going in the direction of more expansive firearms restrictions.
Leaving that reasonable speculation aside, however, it is clear that gun rights advocates are far from delusional in suspecting that gun registration might be used to actually confiscate firearms that had previously been deemed legal. First of all, there is the historical record in one country after another. In the past century alone, fascist and communist regimes have used gun registration (oftentimes enacted by previous democratic governments) to identify gun owners and implement confiscation. In Canada, Australia, and many countries of Europe, gun registration has led to confiscation in recent years. It is happening here in the United States with state laws, as the recently passed legislation in New York State demonstrates.
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In putting forth something for liberals to answer, I want to use the issues that liberal themselves have used in the past. Waco does not count with them because it was a “cult” and cults are weird and icky and well anything we can do go get rid of cults is OK. But how the government got rid of Native Americans was a different matter entirely, at least to liberals.
Ask the American indian.
Regulate and ban firearms + registration + confiscation. Add in incremental small amounts to prevent a catastrophic explosive reaction. Make a harsh example out of the few hardliners through demonizing, isolating and targeting. Make government "entitlements" dependent on all of the above. End state: Turn citizens into subjects slaved to the state.
The retention of freedom and liberty requires constant vigilance.
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Sounds like the Earl Turner era!
It's much more likely that they will make them illegal and then prosecute gun owners (new criminals) as they wish.
Once everyone is a criminal they can do whatever they want, justified by the law.
The problem is, if one is going to be in for a penny, so to speak, what prevents them being from being in for a pound? If I'm going down for just owning one, I might as well use it for its intended purpose.
The “Good Germans”, (AKA Liberals) in today's America would have no problem reporting their Gun Owning Neighbors to the proper Authorities, of that I have no doubt.
BTW - Yesterday I was talking to a couple of typical “pay no attention” Americans about the Gun Grabber Obama. They said, you don't really think Obama wants to take your guns, do you? We get it, but it is obvious many others don't.
***... “How could you not trust your own government?”***
Perhaps this is why.
And to think, in 1962 Thomas J Dodd and Emaual Cellar proposed the first federal law on common firearms.
1962; “We don’t want to take away your guns, we ONLY want to register handguns! Rifles and shotguns will not be affected”.
1964: “We only want to register all your guns, not ban them! Only Army surplus guns will be banned.”
1968: “We only want to register your guns, and ban “Saturday Night Specials” and small foreign handguns along with army surplus rifles!” (They got the ban on 5 shot army surplus rifles and handguns and small foreign pistols)
1970: “We only want to ban Saturday night specials! large handguns and rifles will not be affected!” There was also a call at this time to ban all private possession of ALL GUNS.
1976: “We only want to ban all handguns! Long guns will not be affected!”
1981: “The NRA should give up their handguns, and they can keep their rifles!”- Lee Grant on GMA
1984: “We must ban “assault Rifles, unsuitable or hunting!”
1989: George Bush bans import of foreign made “assault rifles”.
1992: Assault rifle ban passed by Clinton.
2000: first calls to ban single shot .50 cal rifles...
THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT TO BE TRUSTED!
I have one OB butt kisser at work who keeps saying, “They have to do something”.
Dumb @ss says that most criminals run at the sight of a gun so you don’t need large mags. I countered with what if the don’t run, then what? I also pointed out that a lot of people can soak up rounds and still are able to do damage to you.
The Woman who put five .38 Slugs into the Thug a few weeks ago proves the point. Luckily for her and her Children, he was the only intruder.
The guy walked out of the house. I guess he didn’t know if the Woman was reloading and thought it best to leave. Thus proving that the only response is an Armed Response.
Next question to the Obama lover, who is THEY? If History serves, the THEY that disarmed the Citizens of their respective Countries were either Fascists, Communists or Nazis. Which group does your Coworker identify with?
In a sense I’d say they’re right. He’s probably not going to literally take our guns away. But that’s only because he knows the political conditions aren’t right for it. He understands incrementalism. What he actually is going to do is everything in his power to move things in that direction, to lay the foundation for much stricter controls and possibly even confiscation later. Unfortunately this is a subtler point that probably won’t register with the pay no attention types.
And Japanese-Americans.
I avoid talking to him except for business. I mostly listen to him talk to his other OB worshipers. I think its a mental disorder because not much of what they say makes any sense to me.
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