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Marco Rubio and the Neocon Resurgence (FL senator hires senior national security adviser)
The National Interest ^ | January 24, 2013 | Jacob Heilbrunn

Posted on 01/27/2013 3:45:37 PM PST by drewh

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1 posted on 01/27/2013 3:45:41 PM PST by drewh
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To: drewh

Rubio is too nice. We need someone that will take the gloves off and not be fearful of the press. I don’t think it’s Rubio. Rand Paul seems tougher to me.


2 posted on 01/27/2013 3:59:01 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: drewh

How many times was the word “neocon” used in this article??


3 posted on 01/27/2013 4:03:22 PM PST by cardinal4 (Constitution? What Constitution?)
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To: drewh

We don’t need any neocons, we need real conservatives.


4 posted on 01/27/2013 4:06:22 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: drewh

Fly is an interesting person. There is a lot of information on him at the Foreign Policy Institute online site. One fact about him that caught my eye was this: He is a member of the International Institute for Strategic Studies, and a term member of the Council on Foreign Relations. This means that he is tied in closely with the Globalists, the group that wants one worl government. The fact he is a Neocon indicated he doesn’t give a damn about the inalienable rights of U.S. citizens.

Source- (http://www.foreignpolicyi.org/node/69)

The Council on Foreign Relations is well known, so I have no comments on that uther than it is dominated by Globalists.

The International Institute for Strategic Studies is British and another Globalist hangout. No doubt it probably a part of the same group who controls the CFR.


5 posted on 01/27/2013 4:09:02 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: drewh

He won’t get my vote. I won’t vote for anyone who isn’t eligible per the constitution.


6 posted on 01/27/2013 4:09:24 PM PST by Terry Mross
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To: cardinal4

If the shoe fits...


7 posted on 01/27/2013 4:12:50 PM PST by Romulus
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To: drewh
Only crypto-Marxists use the term "neocon."
8 posted on 01/27/2013 4:16:45 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: Terry Mross

Rubio meets all the qualifications for a presidential candidate.


9 posted on 01/27/2013 4:20:46 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: freedomfiter2
We don’t need any neocons, we need real conservatives.

Bingo! I do not see much of a difference between Rubio and Jeb Bush or Chris Christie or whatever the GOP-e is going to serve up. I am not going to vote for a Rat-lite because they are in the "R" column. I have been fooled too many times before.

10 posted on 01/27/2013 4:26:43 PM PST by Buddy Sorrell ( John Boehner is our Pierre Laval. We need a Charles DeGaulle.)
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To: Terry Mross

Amen Brother.

I believe his stance on Ammnesty will take him out of the running anyway., but if the Dimmies shove it through we will have 3 years to forget the sellout.

The old RINO Republicans might think that running a Hispanic will get the GOP the Hispanic vote, but they are crazy if they do. The Hispanics, like the Negro’s ,and the Homosexuals, will vote for those who have a track record of buying their vote.


11 posted on 01/27/2013 4:35:11 PM PST by Venturer
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To: dandiegirl

My thoughts exactly. He better start getting angry. Millions of us will not leave home for the voting booth without a true firebreather to vote for.


12 posted on 01/27/2013 4:36:20 PM PST by AdaGray (squi)
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To: dandiegirl

Rubio is actually very agressive. Also, what’s with the “neocon” term coming back into vogue? That was normally a Dem term for a conservative Jew who supported both Israel and American exceptionalism.


13 posted on 01/27/2013 4:46:19 PM PST by livius
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To: dandiegirl
Rubio is a passionate talker.......I will back him....already, just like clockwork, we get the naysayers....

we need a Latino, period....if we want to win, its going to be with latinos....

14 posted on 01/27/2013 4:49:20 PM PST by cherry
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To: Venturer
so buy their vote!....the trouble with pubs and conservatives is that some of you think this is a HS debate...its actually a war....

wage war...buy people off like the rats....

latinos have been in this country for its entire life and even before....they have a vested interest in seeing it stay great...

15 posted on 01/27/2013 4:51:29 PM PST by cherry
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To: Terry Mross
He won’t get my vote. I won’t vote for anyone who isn’t eligible per the constitution.

Nor mine. However, Rubio, Jindal, et.al., could be doing us a favor by driving a stake through the heart of the GOP establishment.

Here's how. They could syphon off the immigrant vote from the Democrat party, finally providing a split in the one-party system. They would also get the northeast liberal Republicans.

I'm not a fan of third parties, but this might open a pathway for a new party of American citizen conservatives, one that could win in a three-way split.

16 posted on 01/27/2013 5:02:19 PM PST by meadsjn
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17 posted on 01/27/2013 5:05:31 PM PST by RedMDer (HEY LIBS! GUN FREE ZONE T-SHIRTS AVAILABLE NOW. I DARE YA!)
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To: livius

Maybe he is, but I thought he was terribly weak questioning Hillary. Why one senator didn’t just say “what were/are you and Obama covering up by continuing with the movie bs” Just one direct question would have been nice.


18 posted on 01/27/2013 5:57:51 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: cherry

What about Ted Cruz. He seems tougher than Rubio. What we really need is someone that no one is talking about right now. Someone out of politics that is smart, passionate and has a ton of charisma- maybe he hasn’t shown up yet.


19 posted on 01/27/2013 6:00:51 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: cherry

The point is Cherry that they have already been bought, by the Democrats.

It would take years and and by that time we will all be on welfare.


20 posted on 01/27/2013 6:03:29 PM PST by Venturer
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To: drewh

Skip ot dude. Luv Yuh but, you ain’t NBC and I will be true to my convictions.

I will not support you as more and more of the camel pushes its way into tent.


21 posted on 01/27/2013 6:06:25 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: SatinDoll

“Fly”, in name or as a means of “outing” the marxist pResident, should be the logo-symbol for the NWO.

It is certainly “appearing” more and more, lately.

(IMHO, Rubio is getting a big head. Seems he’s ready to sign on to the NWO and get his riches.)


22 posted on 01/27/2013 6:06:47 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: drewh
It doesn't matter what Rubio is or isn't, because Obama isn't leaving, or losing an election against a Republican ever again. His biggest threat is within the liberal leadership of the democrat party.

Anyone assuming we can survive to 2016, and win a fraud filled election within a broken system are moving in the wrong direction. Mark Levin was correct when he said we live in a post-Constitutional era, and need to be thinking outside the box for solutions.

The Patriot movement is showing significant growth. I have been very surprised by the way Conservatives have come together on the fundamentals of the Constitution with a professionalism that stopped a lot of the infighting, which looked like it would be a bigger problem than it has been.

Most Conservatives understand they need to work together to have a chance to save the nation. I guess it's obvious that nobody wins an argument over an issue that will become irrelevant if our Nation collapses, but being obvious usually means little in politics it seems. I like seeing people across the Conservative political spectrum cooperating, but it's still going to take a hell of a fight to salvage anything of our once great nation.

www.OathKeepers.org

23 posted on 01/27/2013 6:10:19 PM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (www.OathKeepers.org/oath/)
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To: dandiegirl

Crus was born in Canada, so he is ineligible to be President.

So is Rubio...his parents were not US citizens at the time of his birth...contrary to what some of our more leftist Rubio supporters he is not eligible

Believe me, the Dems will not wimp out if the GOP runs ineligible candidates....it will not be like our PhonyCon Liberal GOP Media who sided with Obama on the Eligibility issue

People need to dumpe the Cruz and Rubio for President talk NOW..they are not eligible. We need Real Conservatives who are eligible


24 posted on 01/27/2013 6:59:41 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: cardinal4
How many times was the word “neocon” used in this article??

I know, right.



25 posted on 01/27/2013 7:19:43 PM PST by rdb3 (We're all going to get what only some of us deserve...)
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To: drewh

Remember in 2016 the RATs will probably be running an old white person.


26 posted on 01/27/2013 7:47:14 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Soylent Green is Boomers)
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To: drewh; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; AuntB; ...
RE :”His appointment to Rubio’s staff attests to the influence of the neocons within the GOP and Kristol’s success at promoting his associates. “

This makes sense now.
Neocons want ‘immigration reform’ at any cost because they need those poor Hispanics in the Army for those future invasions/land wars.
No surprise that McCain and Grahamnesty are big promoters of amnesty.

Ryan and Newt were on TV today repeating the new GOP amnesty buzz-phrase : "I support the Rubio immigration reform plan"

27 posted on 01/27/2013 7:59:00 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: Venturer
"The old RINO Republicans might think that running a Hispanic will get the GOP the Hispanic vote, but they are crazy if they do. The Hispanics, like the Negro’s ,and the Homosexuals, will vote for those who have a track record of buying their vote."

Rubio only has to neutralize -- not even flip -- 6% of the Latino vote, and he wins FL, NM, CO. Take that, with red 2012 + VA & IA, and he wins in 2016 by 274-264. Without OH!

If you have a divisive Donkey primary like most expect, that's realistically doable.

28 posted on 01/27/2013 11:05:19 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Own it.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Rubio meets all the qualifications for a presidential candidate.

I guess anyone can be a candidate, but he is not eligible to hold the office.

29 posted on 01/28/2013 1:16:57 AM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesn’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: itsahoot

Total and complete BS.
Rubio meets the requirements, period.


30 posted on 01/28/2013 5:03:35 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: sickoflibs
....neocons are hot for amnesty----they need lotsa poor Hispanics in the US Army as "cannon fodder" for all the invasions and land wars they're planning......

Yeah---the pukeneos never saw an immigrant they didn't want to subsidize with tax dollars---dating back to WW 11. The contemporary Russian trek to the US is s-o-o-o-o profitable, they got Russians pretending they're Jews so they can stop off in Israel first---grab all the freebies there---then fly here to sign up to ride the US gravy train. As refugees from "persecution" the US freebies are tripled.

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Mmmmm......sure would like to be a fly on the wall at the Four Seasons---where the elite meet. The pukes plan all the invasions over chilled Cristal, room temp Brie and water crackers.

Course there's gonna be a lot more invasions and land wars since the pukes duped Bush into invading Iran. Now that the entire 100 million-strong Muslim world is aflame with hatred for the US, Americans, and Christians.

I guess the pukes will have to use darts and a Mideast map to decide which country they want the US to invade next (cackle).

31 posted on 01/28/2013 5:45:11 AM PST by Liz
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To: sickoflibs
Odd isnt it? Fox News got rid of pukeneo pals---Rove and Palin----but Chief Puke Billy Kristol is still a Fox talking head.

REFERENCE This past spring Kristol acknowledged that the NeoCons had successfully purged the isolationists from the GOP and were moving to purge the Realists, especially older realists----Hagel, Scowcroft, Baker, Kissinger, Schultz, Lugar etc.

NOTE: And let's not forget the pukeneos' very fave sport as they squat in the Repub party---kicking social conservatives to the curb.

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REFERENCE How did the neocons – a small group at odds with most of the US foreign policy elite – manage to capture the Bush administration---and be given paid jobs and an entire WH division----the WH Office of Special OPs?

Few neos supported Bush during the presidential primaries. They feared Bush II would be like the first – a wimp who had failed to occupy Baghdad in the first Gulf War and who had pressured Israel into the Oslo peace process – and that his administration, again like his father's, would be dominated by moderate Republican realists such as Powell, James Baker and Brent Scowcroft. Neos supported the maverick senator John McCain until it became clear that Bush would get the nomination.

Then neos had a stroke of luck – VP Cheney was put in charge of the presidential transition (the period between the Nov election and the accession to office in January). Cheney used this opportunity to stack the administration with his hard-line allies. Instead of becoming the de facto president in foreign policy, as many had expected, Secretary of State Powell found himself boxed in by Cheney's right-wing network of neos, including Wolfowitz, Perle, Feith, Bolton and Libby.

The neocons took advantage of GW Bush's ignorance and inexperience. Unlike his father---a Second World War vet, onetime ambassador to China, director of the CIA, and VP---GWB was a thinly-educated playboy who had failed repeatedly in business before becoming the governor of Texas, a largely ceremonial position (the state's lieutenant governor has more power).

The younger Bush was tilting away from Powell and toward Wolfowitz ("Wolfie," as he calls him) even before 9/11 gave GWB something he had lacked: a life's mission other than following in dad's footsteps. There were signs of estrangement between the cautious father and the crusading son: in 2002, veterans of the first Bush admin--including Baker, Scowcroft and Lawrence Eagleburger, warned publicly against an invasion of Iraq without authorization from Congress and the UN.

It is not clear that George W fully understood the grand strategy that neo Wolfowitz and other aides were unfolding. GWB seemed genuinely to believe that there was an imminent threat to the US from Saddam Hussein's "weapons of mass destruction," something the leading neocons said in public but were far too intelligent to believe themselves.

The Neo's "Project for the New American Century" urged an invasion of Iraq throughout the Clinton years, for reasons that had nothing to do with possible links between Saddam and Osama bin Laden. Public letters signed by Wolfowitz and others called on the USto invade and occupy Iraq, to bomb Hezbollah bases in Lebanon, and to threaten states such as Syria and Iran with US attacks if they continued to sponsor terrorism.

Claims that the invasion was not to protect the American people but to make the Middle East safe for Israel are dismissed by the neocons as vicious anti-Semitism.

Yet (in 2003) Syria, Iran and Iraq were bitter enemies, with their weapons pointed at each other, and the terrorists they sponsor targeted Israel rather than the US. The neocons urged all-out war with Iran next, though by any rational measurement North Korea's new nuclear arsenal is, for the US, a far greater problem. (EXCERPT: By Michael Lind circa 2003)

32 posted on 01/28/2013 5:59:32 AM PST by Liz
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Rubio meets the requirements, period.

Thou saith.


33 posted on 01/28/2013 9:28:00 AM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesn’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: itsahoot

Snappy comeback.

No logic. No facts.
Obviously can’t read.

Did you make it through the 8th grade ?


34 posted on 01/28/2013 10:43:12 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Did you make it through the 8th grade ?

Actually I did, which is why you can't pull that cr@p on me. He is not a NBC and your howling will not make it so.

35 posted on 01/28/2013 4:04:32 PM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesn’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: itsahoot

Please locate the words in the constitution that mention parents in regard to presidential candidates.
You can’t do it.


36 posted on 01/28/2013 4:14:16 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Please locate the words in the constitution that mention parents in regard to presidential candidates. You can’t do it.

I can't find the part where it says Eric is an idiot, but I bet I can show why it should have been in there.

37 posted on 01/28/2013 11:16:09 PM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesn’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: itsahoot

When you have no fact, use profanity.


38 posted on 01/29/2013 5:49:22 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
The sum of your comments are at the very least profane.

Profane: Marked by contempt or irreverence for what is sacred.

39 posted on 01/29/2013 1:24:26 PM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesn’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: itsahoot

I think Rubio could be our next president.


40 posted on 01/29/2013 1:29:25 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I think Rubio could be our next president.

No doubt, but he is still ineligible, but so is the current president. No one gives a cr@p about the Constitution, and that includes you.

41 posted on 01/29/2013 1:37:49 PM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesn’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: drewh

What people see: a young, hansome, minority candidate that speaks well.

What people get: another ladder climber who went straight from law school to politics, has no real world experience and talks a much better game than he actually plays.

Surely this is not the best hope conservatives have.


42 posted on 01/29/2013 1:38:58 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: itsahoot
He's as eligible as Romney was...
43 posted on 01/29/2013 1:40:01 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Pan_Yan
What people get: another ladder climber who went straight from law school to politics, has no real world experience and talks a much better game than he actually plays.

Good post. He also wouldn't be the first candidate to go hardline on foreign policy to cover how squishy he becomes on other issues.

44 posted on 01/29/2013 1:45:32 PM PST by x
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
He's as eligible as Romney was...

Sure but he lost.

45 posted on 01/30/2013 12:02:50 AM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesn’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: cardinal4

Only a stinkin’ LIBERAL uses the word “neocon” .


46 posted on 01/30/2013 12:13:22 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: itsahoot

Your first accurate observation ?


47 posted on 01/30/2013 4:52:22 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior

Finally someone speaks the truth. We are wasting our time bickering over 2016 GOP hopees to run a useless race against the already entrenched coup that has happened. We are not going to win it no matter who is the nominee.

I am sick of the same old pattern we fall into thinking we can fix it in just 4 more years. How many years have we been doing that now? Not going to happen. People need to think of themselves as Americans who are under attack. Party politics is a waste. Where are all the wonderful patriot politicians out there speaking and doing something about Obama’s UnConstitutional actions? They still think it is all just everyday politics as we watch our rights stripped away and our money pilfered.

Successful voter fraud has decided the 2016 race already. If Obama is tired of it, Hillary has already been chosen to take over.


48 posted on 01/30/2013 5:15:42 AM PST by dforest
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I have been observing politics for over 50 years. I have correctly predicted every Presidential election since FDR Died. Rubio is not NBC, but I doubt that will stop him from running and it will not be an issue unless the DIMs get very worried.

The Constitution is just a lot of outdated rules made by a bunch of old white racists so who cares. Glad you could help with that clarification Arkie.

Rubio is not NBC


49 posted on 01/30/2013 11:28:04 AM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesn’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: itsahoot

Show it to me in the constitution.


50 posted on 01/30/2013 12:03:25 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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