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Jobless claims drop exceeds expectations
Reuters via Chicago Tribune ^ | Reuters

Posted on 02/14/2013 6:19:25 AM PST by John W

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The number of Americans filing new claims for unemployment benefits fell more than expected last week, pointing to a continued steady improvement in labor market conditions.

Initial claims for state unemployment benefits dropped 27,000 to a seasonally adjusted 341,000, the Labor Department said on Thursday. The prior week's claims figure was revised to show 2,000 more applications received than previously reported.

Economists polled by Reuters had expected claims to fall to 360,000.

A Labor Department analyst said claims for Illinois and snowstorm-hit Connecticut had been estimated. Nevertheless, because most claims are filed online, the blizzard that slammed the East Coast appeared to have little effect on the broader claims data, he said.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jobless; recovery; unemployment; unexpected
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To: John W

the more people drop out of the labor force, the better the obaconomy looks!

O happy days

Forget how many are unemployed- how many are employed?

Now if only the greedy rich would pick up their fair share of slack and pay those taxes that nonoworkers don’t pay


21 posted on 02/14/2013 7:03:40 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: John W

The headline from another source:

Initial Claims Plunge As Department Of Labor “Estimates” Claims For Illinois, Conn.

A line from the subject article, titled “Jobless claims drop exceeds expectations”:

A Labor Department analyst said claims for Illinois and snowstorm-hit Connecticut had been estimated.

The bias is readlily apparent in the headlines. One praises the regime; the other questions it.


22 posted on 02/14/2013 7:08:20 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: John W

this is why you look at the 4 week moving average which is 352,500. Kast time the 4 week MA was at this level was March 2008.


23 posted on 02/14/2013 7:21:39 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: John W

“Economists polled by Reuters had expected claims to fall to 360,000.”

They would never err on the side of caution...or dare I say OVERESTIMATE so that things would SEEM better.


24 posted on 02/14/2013 7:24:38 AM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: John W
And in a related story...

Increase in applications for ObamaPhones,EBT cards and SSDI exceeds expectations.

25 posted on 02/14/2013 7:24:56 AM PST by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: John W; dead


26 posted on 02/14/2013 7:33:35 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: John W

“The prior week’s claims figure was revised to show 2,000 more applications received than previously reported. “


27 posted on 02/14/2013 7:34:07 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: John W
Analysis from IHS Global insight

Initial unemployment insurance claims fell by 27,000, to 341,000, in the week ended 9 February. The four-week moving average ticked up 1,500, to 352,500.

- Initial unemployment insurance claims dropped by 27,000, to 341,000, in the week ended 9 February. On a not-seasonally adjusted basis, claims fell by 29,014, to 359,428.

- The four-week moving average, a less volatile measure of unemployment claims, rose to 352,500. The four-week moving average has been hovering near its lowest levels since March 2008.

- Continuing benefits programs reported 138,000 fewer claimants in the week ended 2 February, bringing the total down to 3.6 million. Regular benefits typically last for a period of 26 weeks; claimants are required to check in weekly to provide updates on their job search to receive compensation.

- Emergency unemployment compensation (EUC), which immediately follows the exhaustion of regular benefits, was provided to 2.08-million people in the week ended 26 January—an increase of 255,258, which nearly cancels out the previous week’s drop.

This week’s drop in jobless claims exceeded expectations. Indeed, claims seem to be following a definite downward trend. However, in the wake of Winter Storm Nemo, it is hard to become optimistic about jobless claims’ effect on the February employment report. The survey period for the employment report overlaps with the aftermath of the blizzard, and thus reflects a pay week in which many Americans in the Northeast would not have been able to work.

The four-week moving average, which smoothes out volatility in weekly jobless claims, has been hovering near its lowest levels since March 2008—an encouraging sign. However, the recovery is still gathering momentum. The four-week moving average is down only 20,000 from a year ago. Meanwhile, the January unemployment rate edged up to 7.9%. According to the January NFIB Small Business Optimism Index, more small firms are planning to hire.

The recent changes seen in emergency unemployment compensation and extended benefits data may reflect the effects of the American Taxpayer Relief Act of 2012. These programs had been slated to expire at the end of December, but were extended until the end of 2013 as part of the fiscal-cliff agreement. Continuing claims and initial claims were not affected by the fiscal-cliff deal. The only programs threatened by the cliff were those serving people who had been receiving unemployment benefits for upwards of 26 weeks.

January payroll employment was nothing special, at 157,000. Since the recent blizzard likely put a damper on February payroll employment growth, we expect the next report to come in between 125,000–150,000.

28 posted on 02/14/2013 7:40:05 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: John W

Excuse me if the newest dazzling data from the “Ministry of Truth” doesn’t impress me.


29 posted on 02/14/2013 7:42:25 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Puppage

-— Oh, joy! Happy days are here again ping ——

There’s so much good news, I’m getting tired of celebrating.

I’d prefer a job, though.


30 posted on 02/14/2013 7:46:16 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
I’d prefer a job, though.

Your job IS to celebrate, comrade. Another piece of cake, perhaps?

31 posted on 02/14/2013 8:07:19 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: jiggyboy

Once any “adjustment” is made in a survey, the scientific validity of a truly random sample is destroyed.

Apparently the definition of a valid random sample has changed since I graduated from college.

EODGUY


32 posted on 02/14/2013 8:24:37 AM PST by EODGUY (Hold on to your copies of the Consititution of the United States. It is going to be re-written.)
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To: GeronL

how many were added to disability?””””

That & Illinois & Connecticut were ESTIMATES!!!!


33 posted on 02/14/2013 9:14:04 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: GeronL

“how many were added to disability?”

BINGO. The new gold mine is here.

60% for the fraudsters and
40% for the fraudulent lawyers

-100% for the Amerikan taxpayer


34 posted on 02/14/2013 10:04:32 AM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: GeronL
how many were added to disability?

Seeing that this is the initial claims number, your question is largely irrelevant.

35 posted on 02/14/2013 10:18:08 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: EODGUY
Apparently the definition of a valid random sample has changed since I graduated from college.

Oh, there's a lot of that stuff across the landscape today.

Why do you think so few people see that the Emperor has no clothes?

Thank the educational establishment for that. Their main goal for many, many years has been the successful development and implementation of the "New Soviet Man", not the education and development of fresh young minds.

By the time the SHTF, an increasing number of people will start to see, slowly in more cases than not, that, education-wise, they've been sold a bill of goods. However, since their logic and problem-solving neural pathways have been stunted by lack of development in the formative years, their response to this growing insight is likely to be violence, egged on by a culture that festers in the politics of envy.

This is why I fear war is inevitable, and that, as things continue to go South, we'll be experiencing a quickening of that day's approach. This is why the Communists, uh Fascists, uh, I mean, Democrats are pushing so mightily for gun control now.

No matter how you view it, as Tom Cullen in "The Stand" so eloquently put it, "M-O-O-N, that spells trouble!"

CA....

36 posted on 02/14/2013 10:23:59 AM PST by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: John W

We have been adding over 300,000 a month to the unemployment lines for years, sooner or later we have to start running out people to add. That’s 4 million a year. This country should be ashamed of those numbers.


37 posted on 02/14/2013 10:35:20 AM PST by Lets Roll NOW (A baby isn't a punishment, Obama is)
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To: John W
If I'm reading this chart from the BLS correctly, there are around 822,000 jobs LESS than there were in January, 2009.
38 posted on 02/14/2013 5:42:42 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: John W; TwelveOfTwenty

I did read it incorrectly, that was 2012. In December, 2012, there were about 461,000 jobs more than there were in January, 2009.


39 posted on 02/14/2013 5:47:32 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: John W

not surprising. there’s been an uptick in part timers as their hours get cut and they get hired on at second jobs.


40 posted on 02/14/2013 6:06:37 PM PST by newzjunkey (bah)
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