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Splitting the Difference on Illegal Immigration (They can stay, but they can't become citizens.)
National Affairs ^ | Winter 2013 | PETER SKERRY

Posted on 02/24/2013 8:22:30 PM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem

I’ve got a better idea. They can stay but we get to hunt them like the vermin they are. If they manage to survive for 15 years then they can go to the end of the list to be naturalized. If they further survive until they get sworn in then they are citizens. (of course once they go on the list their names, addresses and photos get published as well as their illegal status)


41 posted on 02/25/2013 1:18:38 PM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: neverdem

Some talking points (to form the basis of a rational discussion - recognizing that may be an oxymoron in the leftist vocabulary):

- Close the borders (that way criminals will not emigrate here, deported criminals will stay deported, and illegal immigration will be minimized - without this, no other immigration reform makes any sense, but this is already the law, so it’s should only be a matter of enforcing it)
- Eliminate the provision of anchor babies automatically becoming citizens (they get in line with all others seeking to emigrate)
- Deport illegal criminals
- Don’t allow non-citizens to vote (this should go without saying, and it is not the law in several states, but, without voter ID, it cannot be enforced - the argument that it is difficult for some to obtain an ID is an excuse)
- Don’t allow non-citizens to obtain free social programs (this would eliminate people staying here or coming here who are only looking for a handout)


42 posted on 02/25/2013 1:55:38 PM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: BenLurkin

It equates to reality. They’re never going to be mass deported. They are too integrated into our economy. So the next best politically feasible outcome may be a permanent residency without any citizenship, but with fines and limitations, etc.

We’ve got a current welfare burden that needs to be managed. You won’t get deportation. Now what?


43 posted on 02/26/2013 3:54:54 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
It equates to reality. They’re never going to be mass deported. They are too integrated into our economy. So the next best politically feasible outcome may be a permanent residency without any citizenship, but with fines and limitations, etc.

When laws are enforced the illegals self deport. How do you think they got here? You are playing into the statist gloBULList hands. Are you employing illegals right now? What are your motives for that ludicrous statement?

44 posted on 02/26/2013 3:58:16 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: neverdem

They can leave and can’t become citizens.


45 posted on 02/26/2013 3:59:07 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: central_va
What are your motives for that ludicrous statement?

It's called political reality. Ping me when you've passed your solution to illegal immigration. I want to head downtown to watch the deportation of all the illegals in Chicago.

Conservatves need to figure out how to maintain their standards while achieving politically realistic goals. This is how we lose power. It's short-sighted and immature - despite your age.

46 posted on 02/26/2013 4:31:18 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

enforce laws = illegals self deport. It is that simple.


47 posted on 02/26/2013 4:45:19 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 1010RD

You are wrong and I see no reason why you cant find a home at the DU. I noticed you didn’t answer my question do you employ illegals or otherwise make money off illegals? Well do you?


48 posted on 02/26/2013 4:48:39 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

OK, get your law passed and enforced. It’s that simple.


49 posted on 02/26/2013 4:55:34 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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You think I am wrong? Your next sentence is too long and should read, “I can see no reason”. Have you ever been to DU?

They hate ideas, thinking and free speech. If you don’t agree with them they say inane things like “Are you a FReeper?” or “Why don’t you go post at FR!” and I left out all the swearing and vulagarity.

Did you notice I didn’t answer your question, again? Conspiracy? I think not!


50 posted on 02/26/2013 4:59:52 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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I am assuming that you have economic reasons to support the illegals staying in the USA. Therefore you are corrupt and support a corrupt system. I deserve better countrymen that the likes of you.


51 posted on 02/26/2013 5:07:00 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
I deserve better countrymen [than] the likes of you.

You're right. Where will you go?

52 posted on 02/26/2013 5:38:29 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Your solution to corruption is more corruption. You sound like a democrat to me.


53 posted on 02/26/2013 5:52:09 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

The small d is appropriate. ;-]


54 posted on 02/26/2013 6:23:56 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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