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Assault weapons ban won't be in Dems' gun bill (Boo Hoo Frankenstein)
AP ^ | 03/19/13 | Alen Fram

Posted on 03/19/2013 11:39:25 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has decided that a proposed assault weapons ban won't be part of a gun control bill the Senate plans to debate next month, the sponsor of the ban said Tuesday, a decision that means the ban stands little chance of survival. Instead, Sen. Dianne Feinstein said she will be able to offer her ban on the military-style firearms as an amendment. Feinstein is all but certain to need 60 votes from the 100-member Senate to prevail, but she faces solid Republican opposition and likely defections from some moderate Democrats.

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To: chris37
How do you figure the GOP will be swept from the house? Since when has gun control done anything but cause the Dems to lose? (except for Bush senior who capitulated)
21 posted on 03/19/2013 12:58:47 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

“Instead, Sen. Dianne Feinstein said she will be able to offer her ban on the military-style firearms as an amendment.”

Would it make sense for Republicans to stand aside and let the Dems add Diane’s irrational AWB as an amendment? Seems like that would set up almost certain defeat of the whole package. The Dems would have to vote against it or risk for defeat in 2014, and could not blame the Reps.


22 posted on 03/19/2013 1:02:43 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Rapscallion

“I will work to defeat every democrat in elections forever.”

Amen to that. And none of this ‘blue dog’ stuff either. On the really important stuff, all the ‘moderate’ democrats ALWAYS vote with their party.


23 posted on 03/19/2013 1:09:30 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: lacrew

It still has universal background that keeps the info forever on where they are located.There is not reason for this unless they want to take them.


24 posted on 03/19/2013 1:17:22 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: TheRhinelander

NO that is the current background check not the universal background they want.Now they are required to destroy those records after 90 days this keeps them forever.


25 posted on 03/19/2013 1:18:40 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: chris_bdba

I know this is unprovable,
but who really thinks they destroy the NICS data after 90 days?


26 posted on 03/19/2013 1:20:12 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: chris_bdba

And, Mr or Mrs Democrat, answer me this question...

what do you want to do after you confiscate all privately owned firearms

that you wouldn’t be able to do before?


27 posted on 03/19/2013 1:21:16 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: TheRhinelander
Already there and done my friend.

When the NRA worked with Congress to establish the NICS, there was specific language in the law that prohibited the FBI from retaining the information on background checks.

If the Feds wanted to trace a specific gun used in a crime, they would go to the manufacturer with the serial number, who would then tell the Feds that they sold that gun to Shotgun Joe's Gun Emporium. The Feds would then go to Shotgun Joe's and he would look up the serial number of that firearm, and he would then pull the 4473 that you signed and say "yup, I sold it to The Rhinelander."

Right now, there is no way for the Feds to call up your name and get a list of all firearms you own. After the "universal background check" law is passed, which also has a provision to authorize the establishment and maintenance of a national gun registry database, the Feds will then be able to punch in "The Rhinelander" and get back a list of all guns you purchased.

That being said, many states do run such a registry, including my state of Michigan who registers handguns. Some states such as New York register all firearms.

28 posted on 03/19/2013 1:25:43 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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Because it won’t fit in a tag line:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

(The only license anyone should need.)


29 posted on 03/19/2013 1:35:21 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Yo-Yo

That’s good to know, I was not aware of that.


30 posted on 03/19/2013 2:19:44 PM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: Durus

Because the GOP is utterly useless.


31 posted on 03/19/2013 2:23:27 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: muawiyah

Ah I didn’t know this. I did hear at some point that he has a carry anywhere permit for the state of NY though, not sure how accurate that is.


32 posted on 03/19/2013 2:24:32 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Where pigstein blew it is that the elitist whore refused to pledge money to protect her fellow Nazis.

Too bad. So sad.


33 posted on 03/19/2013 6:33:43 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: chris37
While true it's not a reason. I'm disgusted by the GOP but throwing out the baby with the bath water doesn't make any sense. In other words it will take less effort to fix the dysfunctional Republican party than to start a third party. What party do you think Rand Paul will run under.

I could be wrong I guess. Starting a 3rd party has some advantages I just don't see them outweighed by the huge disadvantages.

34 posted on 03/19/2013 7:05:03 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Durus

Ross Perot proved the best way to guarantee a Democrat plurality win was a well financed 3rd party. And that was before the Dems had the benefit of demographics they do now.


35 posted on 03/19/2013 7:11:48 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Durus

I imagine that he would likely run under the Libertarian party, but at this point I can no longer support him.

He’s lost me on “comprehensive immigration reform”.

It doesn’t matter if a person has an r after their name so long as they are fiercely conservative, such as Cruz.

He seems such a rare find though. To be able to broom and hose out the GOP of all its useless waste and replace them with men such as him seems impossible.

If the GOP goes through with its idiotic immigration plans and other things it wants to do as of late such as boots on the ground on Syria al la Graham, or universal back ground checks on guns, I will not be able to vote for them anymore, and if there is no viable alternative then so be it.

I have thought for some time now that this train is going to arrive at its destination, and that there is nothing to be done about it.


36 posted on 03/19/2013 8:15:29 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37
I'm with you as far as never voting for another RINO again. So far I've had to hold my nose and vote for Bush senior, Bob Dole, Bush Junior, McCain and Romney. Even when we've won it only slowed the spread of socialism. There is no point my participation if it has no effect and I think a lot of people are right there with me.

So far of the people mentioned as possibly running for President Rand Paul is in the lead with me even with his “comprehensive immigration reform”. Cruz isn't constitutionally eligible to be president and while I think he is a good conservative I'm not willing to subvert the constitution or abandon my principles to get him elected.

37 posted on 03/20/2013 8:11:15 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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