Posted on 03/24/2013 1:55:44 AM PDT by zeestephen
For the first time, I am wondering about the long-term viability of the Republican Party. I say this not as an advocate of its demise or restructuring but as an observer of troubling signs.
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Look, even Rome didn’t go the way of Rome. By the 300s it was a predominantly Christian empire.
Democrats has been taken over by the socialists and the republicans filled the vacuum.
There is no other way that I see for Republican survival. The defeat of the Left can wait. For many Conservatives like myself, defeat of the RINO faction is now a number one priority.
And a splinter from the Republican party called the Bull Moose.
“NOTE: The Republican party was founded through the simple expedient of creating a committee to issue a call to still extant state political party structures to meet to nominate someone to run for President.More correctly, the party was founded by creating a Republican National Committee which accepted delegates from former Whig state parties and existing Abolitionist party-like bodies.”
I agree, but that takes money. You can’t just invite everyone over to your parlor. You’ll need to rent a venue. Also, if the event fails (and the press will claim it did in any case) then the attempt will have set back or killed the cause. It needs to be well organized, financed and set up in advance to succeed. You’d need some big names to agree in advance to attend. It needs to project inevitability from the get-go.
The point of winning if the price is American Exceptionalism is that the consultants will still get paid, and the GOP elites will still have political power. They will still win, even though we, the conservatives lose. Why should they care?
Hesitate to advise but we in Canada used to have a Progressive Conservative Party that seemed akin to the Republican party of today.
A regional party, the Reform Party, developed and spread, forcing the eventual dissolution of the “Progressive Conservative” Party and the formation of today’s Conservative Party.
As this process took place, the conservative vote was split enabling the Liberal Party to form 3 consecutive majority and one minority government.
The problem applying this to your situation is that our Liberal Party of the time was nowhere near as radically left as the bunch controlling the Democratic Party at present.
The question becomes, can the US, as founded, survive the transition period.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_of_Canada#History
See your point FRiend, and praying it does not come.
is anyone taking into account the significant growth of the Republican Party at county and tate level?? Here in NC the local GOP is becoming strong and flexing it’s muscle, IMO.
The Republicans could probably find a willing youth audience for all their positions except on homosexual marriage. At least, that’s what the “experts” say. So they’re telling us that we could get people to agree with 90+% of our positions, but if we don’t give in on homo marriage, we’ll lose them. I find that difficult to believe. If some voter agrees with us on the great majority of the issues, they’re not going to throw us over for some issue that affects only 2% of the populations and of that pct. a significant pct. themselves don’t care about the issue.
“The hard truth is that the movement inside the Republican Party to abandon social conservatism is nothing short of a political death wish. Denying it will not alter the reality.’
amen
You both make good points, and many folks tend to have this fantasy of a third party savior winning the Presidency, which I suppose could happen, without understanding that the Presidency is only the tip of a very huge ice berg of what it really means to have a viable party all the way down to the county alderman seats and so on. It’s a massive under taking, and while the DC Republicans are reprehensible and out of touch, down in the unsexy small races there are some good things going on.
State's with problem parties ~ e.g. all of New England, New Yor, New Jersey, etc., don't get called in. We'll address them later.
Now, the money, that comes from big money donors who think they got ripped off with the Romney trick. There've gotta' be a bunch of those guys around.
Unemployed yout' are not holding out for gay marriage.
The Republicans could probably find a willing youth audience for all their positions except on homosexual marriage. At least, that’s what the “experts” say.
....yeah, the experts!!! Have those experts explained the march for marriage by young people in FRANCE??? Don’t believe the lying state controlled media. And it’s less than 2%. Good point driftless....
ymmv
From the article:
“Maybe it’s just from where I’m sitting, but it appears to me that momentum is building among Republicans to capitulate on the issue of same-sex marriage, no matter what negative consequences might result from society’s abandonment of support for traditional marriage. Likewise, it seems that many Republicans are determined to surrender on the immigration issue on the naive hope that Republicans will instantly shed the ogre factor and be on equal footing to compete for the Hispanic vote.”
That is how it looks to me, too!
I am a fiscal conservative, but how many in the GOP want to see the Federal budget CUT by 10% next year? Every member of the GOP-E believes a 1% cut would be draconian...they would melt at the idea of making the 2014 budget 15-20% smaller than the 2013 budget!
And ultimately, my values define me - my social values. How I think we ought to live and treat others. The Founders would recognize my values, and share many of them. Current America rejects them, and me. I think the solution is to EXPLAIN why those values work, while also praying for revival (and in truth, without spiritual revival, America will rapidly become something I loath).
But no one is the GOP gives a rat’s rear end about what I believe, or what I care about. I voted straight GOP every 2 years for the last 12 (except 2004, when I was stationed in Korea and the state of Washington didn’t bother to get me a ballot until Dec 2004). And in return, I’ve got...NOTHING!
The GOP-E wants to piss on my grave, and they’d like me to die and get in that grave ASAP. They lick the genitals of their democrat friends, and save all their hatred for social conservative. That is because ultimately the question comes down to, “Do you believe in a righteous God, or not?”
They do not. I do. We have no basis for reconciliation.
This is in the comments section:
“I hope the GOP doesn’t bend backwards on gay marriage, but they are still a million times better than the Democrats as long as they oppose abortion.”
When the GOP bows down to homosexuals, it won’t be long before it also bows down to abortion. When you crawl on your knees to Satan, and ask what he wants, he’ll eventually want it all.
"... can the US, as founded, survive the transition period."
I think that, rather than forming a third party now, we must attempt to take over the GOP one last time, for the 2014 Congressional elections. It may just be the last opportunity to save the country. As stated upthread, the picture is much better on the state and local level for conservatism within the GOP. It would be a complete shame to waste that.
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