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1 posted on 03/26/2013 8:48:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I’m sorry, but this analysis by Mr Hanson completely misses the real reason for invading Iraq. It was oil, or course, but not in the way most people think. The problem was that UN sanctions were set to expire at the end of 2003 and the US had run out of ploys to extend them. Saddam, meanwhile, had begun granting oil concessions to foreign countries, including one that had already been signed with Chinese arms-maker Norinco in partnership with other Chinese firms. Upon the lifting of sanctions, the Chinese would have been able to effectively garrison the massive and undeveloped Al Hadab field and were in line to sign another concession for Halfaya. It was with these sales of in-ground reserves to potentially hostile outside players that Saddam crossed the line and triggered the “Carter Doctrine,” which commits the US to treat any outside attempt to gain control of Mid-East oil reserves as a direct threat to US interests that should be met if necessary by force. Bush was faced with the urgent need to preempt Chinese encroachment into Iraq and resorted to the “cavalry charge” approach with an outright invasion: horrendously expensive but dramatically effective. All the WMD, nation-building, Al Qaeda and 9/11 yammering was just window dressing to avoid talking about the real issue: China. For a detailed explanation of all this, see Ch 7 of “The Oil Card.” http://www.amazon.com/Oil-Card-Economic-Warfare-Century/dp/097779539X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199719101&sr=8-1

Was the Iraq war of 2003 worth the cost? Well consider the cost of a direct military confrontation between the US and China. In that context, Bush’s war was cheap at twice the price.

It is worth noting that, with Chinese investment funds, Saddam had planned to be producing nearly as much oil by now as the Saudis. That was another problem for the US, which has been trying since the late 1990s to jack up oil prices to bolster the crippled Russians and crimp the import-dependent Chinese on their input costs. And look where we are? Iraq production and exports are still bumping along at a fraction of what they could have been and pose no threat to world oil pricing. The Chinese have been allowed to participate in some service contracts there, alongside Western majors, but are not allowed to bring their own security forces, have to take minority stakes and only get a fairly small profit per barrel — no actual equity ownership of oil in the ground.

I would go further to say that fears over the potential invocation of this Carter Doctrine are what have given pause to the Chinese and others as far as implementing development of oil concessions in Iran.

Flame away.


38 posted on 03/26/2013 11:25:27 AM PDT by Tenega
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Some of you Bush blaming asshats have apparently forgotten about the "Iraq Liberation Act" signed by Bill Clinton Oct, 31 1998. It passed the House 360-38 and passed the Senate with UNANIMOUS CONSENT.

"The Act found that between 1980 and 1998 Iraq had:

1.committed various and significant violations of International Law,
2.had failed to comply with the obligations to which it had agreed following the Gulf War and
3.further had ignored Resolutions of the United Nations Security Council."

The Act declared that it was the Policy of the United States to support "regime change."

President Clinton stated in February 1998:
"Iraq admitted, among other things, an offensive biological warfare capability, notably, 5,000 gallons of botulinum, which causes botulism; 2,000 gallons of anthrax; 25 biological-filled Scud warheads; and 157 aerial bombs. And I might say UNSCOM inspectors believe that Iraq has actually greatly understated its production.... Over the past few months, as [the weapons inspectors] have come closer and closer to rooting out Iraq's remaining nuclear capacity,..."

After 911, and Saddam's continued intransigence, Pres. Bush constantly referred to the "Iraq liberation Act" as another justification of taking out Saddam. At that time, it was accepted as fact that Iraq was the most dangerous regime in the Middle East. BTW, he was offering a $25K payment to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers during the Intifada of the early 2000's.

Naturally, Clinton pretty much disappeared during this time, proving to be the disingenuous weasel that he truly is. Once he saw the polls start to turn, Clinton was not going to say anything supporting the actions of the next President, even though by his former actions and speech, he could and should have.

39 posted on 03/26/2013 11:45:07 AM PDT by muleskinner
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great article by VDH

more sad recriminations from FR

These are the things that made America the paper tiger that OBL mocked.

We will get back their in short order and there will be another attack.

Then the pendulum will swing back.


42 posted on 03/26/2013 12:59:47 PM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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For all of you doubters I settle the question of justification for invading Iraq here: #22 The Quiet Funeral of “Bush Lied – Thousands Died!”
43 posted on 03/26/2013 1:09:18 PM PDT by DeprogramLiberalism (a profile worth reading)
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BTTT! for the history. The question is where do we go from here?


44 posted on 03/26/2013 1:33:30 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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