Posted on 03/27/2013 10:45:06 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
Reince Priebus, chairman of the Republican National Committee, issued some words of advice for fellow GOPers: Get in the 21st century with same-sex-marriage issues.
“We do have a platform, and we adhere to that platform,” Mr. Priebus said in a USA Today video. “But it doesn’t mean that we divide and subtract people from our party” who favor gay marriage.
“I don’t believe we need to act like Old Testament heretics,” he said in the USA Today video. Rather, Republicans “have to strike a balance between principle and grace and respect.”
His statements come as the U.S. Supreme Court is due to hear two cases on gay marriage — one on a California-voted ban on same-sex marriage, and the other on the legalities of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), which bans the federal government from giving marriage benefits to same-sex couples.
His statements also come at a time when politicians from both sides of the political aisle are renouncing their past objections to gay marriage. On the Republican side, Sen. Rob Portman – an Ohio conservative with traditional values — just flipped on gay marriage, in part, he said, because of the recent revelations of homosexuality by one of his sons.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
Another deceptive headline. OK, this is my latest hobbyhorse now. What is this, the latest from the New and Improved Alinsky playbook? Propaganda by Misleading Headlines?
Headline should have read something like: Preibus: OK to Separate Beliefs from Principles.
Or was Washington Times headline writer being sarcastic? Well, too subtle by a mile. Sounds dangerously replacementarian to me.
Anyway, we are head to H. in a handbasket anyway, so don’t be dismayed. There will never be gay marriage. No matter who says there is, there will never be any such thing.
Yep. I said this after they chose the last two RINOs as our candidates, but I caved. Not this time. This time, they're going too far.
So far, my family, our neighbors, and my extended family are ready to back out of politics and work on their own lives and preservation.
It's time people seriously started prepping for what's about to occur. Nature and natures God will not be mocked. Their will be tribulation. People can't war with nature and expect to win.
Good Point!
Good Point!
And may I add...
In the movie “The Passion of the Christ”, Judas hanged himself with a rope he found on a dead, maggot-ridden DONKEY.
Looks like Priebus might find his “rope” on the rotting corpse of the corrupt democrat donkey as well.
Just an observation of mine when you said “Thirty Pieces of Silver”.
Thank you. Since it doesn’t appear Mr. Priebus has read his Bible, he might wish to note that the New Testament makes God’s word on the sin of homosexuality just as clear as the Old.
He may think he is, and therefore you are right, he’s being racist, but in truth many blacks—evangelicals, Catholics, and others—are strongly against gay marriage.
This is a peer pressure campaign to “peer pressure” the elites of the beltway. The USSC is too stupid to realize and too pre-biased to shift to the myth of homosexuals as a status and not an act.
homosexual conduct can and should be fought on science grounds.
The image of what is a normal mother and father family.
unfortunatly we are shut out of cnn, fnc, msnbc, and the zombie networks as well as the old print media.
the dc elites will only see the left by design. they will ignore everything else outside of the nannynyc.
And the Bible specifically says to us gentiles (non Jews) - Abstain from sexual immorality and eating foods offered up to idols. It's telling us how to avoid the coming plagues.
AIDs was natures way of cleansing itself. Man kind got in the way and slowed it down. The next plague won't be as pleasant. It'll clean much faster. There WILL be a cleansing. Nature and natures God will NOT be mocked.
Woe to those who have put this abomination into the minds of the children.
a writhing corpse of a party.. twitching.. twisting.. contorting.. but keeping camera focus (when they can find one).. The Gone2poOP
Is a ReFoRm ParTEA Deux coming up and a lot sooner than many would expect.. or Bust??
we need to remove the staffers as well as the mccains from the GOP. But we can’t stop there.
The same must be done to the DNC and their party.
the left must be returned to an anathama to evolved human thought and reason.
Darren, you're asking some important questions, both in this excerpt I quoted and later in your post.
Properly answering those questions would require a very detailed answer and I'm guessing before we got there, that we'd have to get a lot of prior groundwork done first so we understand each other.
What follows is only an outline of basic principles of what is generally considered to be a “Kuyperian” view of Christian politics. By that I mean not all of God's laws are properly to be enforced by the civil government. Put very briefly, God has appointed covenant heads in three main spheres of society — the family, the church and the state — and apart from the earliest days of the covenant community where leaders such as Abraham and Moses might perform multiple functions as heads of family, church and state, we need to recognize the sovereignty of the forms of government that God has appointed to govern each of the three spheres.
To expand that brief principle to some simple examples of application, the civil government has no authority to decide who may or may not come to communion. The church has no authority to bear the sword and execute people. Families, not the state or the church, are primarily responsible for raising children.
Even more basic is self-government. Governing authorities in the family, the church, and the state must act when individuals fail to govern themselves rightly. There's an important distinction here, however -- governments in the home and the church have an inherent obligation not only to punish wrongdoing but also to teach what is right. The primary purpose of the state, under Romans 13, is punitive rather than pedagogical. If families and churches are doing their jobs, the state will have much less work to do in punishing people. The government of the state grows in power when the governing authorities of the family and the church are unable or unwilling to do their jobs, and since the government of the state is primarily geared toward punishing wrongdoing rather than teaching "right doing," bad things happen because the state isn't well-equipped to re-teach what others have failed to teach.
God has clear teachings on some things and general principles on others to guide rulers in the family, the church and the state. Not everything is equally clear, but homosexuality is not on the list of unclear things. Homosexuality is an offense against both civil government and church doctrine, and therefore should be punished by both civil and ecclesiastical authority.
We can debate what civil punishment for homosexuality should look like, but at an absolute minimum it doesn't involve officially normalizing homosexuality by making homosexual marriages legal.
What I've outlined as the doctrine of “sphere sovereignty” follows the political philosophy of Abraham Kuyper, a conservative Christian leader in the Netherlands who, during the late 1800s and early 1900s, was largely responsible for keeping the Dutch out of the political and moral liberal morass that enveloped most of the rest of Europe. He was the leading force not only in a Christian political party but also a Christian university, a Christian daily newspaper, a Christian school movement, and a conservative secession from the old state church which quickly became the second-largest Protestant denomination in the Netherlands. His work made the Netherlands into the "Bible Belt" of Europe in his day, and for several generations survived until the collapse of society caused by the Second World War. The Netherlands today are in social and moral chaos as a direct result of the inroads of neo-orthodoxy in the 1950s in the colleges and seminaries, the breakdown of the main Christian social institutions which preserved the "antithesis" between the church and the world, and large-scale emigration from the Netherlands of many of the rural (and more religiously conservative) Dutch young people to the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and elsewhere because of the devastation of war.
I don't agree with everything Kuyper said and did, but I find his distinction between family, state, and church authority to be very valuable.
Perhaps even more important, Kuyper developed a doctrine of "co-belligerence," one later adopted by men such as Francis Schaeffer and D. James Kennedy, which outlined the way in which strictly conservative Christians can and should maintain their doctrinal standards within the sphere of their own churches while cooperating in the sphere of the state with people in other churches, most significantly Roman Catholics, on areas where we can agree.
That means I do not have to agree with Roman Catholic doctrine to work with a Roman Catholic in the pro-life movement, and the same goes for an orthodox Jew or even a secular conservative. That is a very, very important development in Christian political theology, and it laid the groundwork not only for Kuyper's success in the Netherlands but also for much of the modern Christian conservative movement in the United States.
Yes, it’s still Mickey and Minnie, not Mickey and Vinnie.
The United States leads the world. We buy their "friendship". I don't believe it's an accident that everything referring to the "left side" in the Bible is bad. Everything on the right is good.
One example; "Do not fish from the left side of the boat, because the left side is barren."
"A wise man's heart tends toward his right, but a fool's heart tends toward his left."
Left wing policies are being adopted world wide, and play a huge role during the end times.
Arlen Spector notoriously only had uber liberal staffers.
McCain reportedly has a few homosexuals.
Then you have the screw anything for power set.
DC is not only a country club, it would make las vegas blush by hedonistic comparison.
There is no limit to their depravity. (even the former congressman’s wife who posed for playboy and admitted to having sex with her ex on the captiol steps is tame by today’s revelations)
They love him because he raised enough money to balance the books of the RNC. I forget the figure—in the millions. The GOP has the money disease. It’s important to raise money, but we lost the election.
Indeed.
And the Latin word “sinister” means....guess what! “LEFT”
No offense meant to our beloved FReepers who may have been born left-handed, of course. :-)
reverend in the church of satan, it appears.
the new bet is, who will cave first, the republican party or the boy scouts?
i would bet the gop elite reptards setting the party platform, will.
at an absolute minimum it doesn't involve officially normalizing homosexuality by making homosexual marriages legal.
I agree with that. I think government should be out of marriage. Part of that is due to being offended that I need to get a marriage license. Part of that is due to not wanting to be forced to accept homo marriage. I saw the writing on the wall with this 5-10 years ago along with court precedence with Loving v Virginia. I know my church won't recognize homo marriage. I don't think yours will either. I don't believe in Epicsopalianism/Anglicanism, so that's irrelevant to me.
I think the one argument that killed us long term on this issue was opposing gay marriage as "defending marriage." The problem is what's the biggest threat to marriage? Homos? or Divorce? When there is a 50% divorce rate in society, and probably an adultery rate close to that, we are already in crisis when it comes to marriage and the family.
I think the best we can do is control what we control in how we live our lives by example, and to live in areas where our ways are supported.
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