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Sen. Cruz introduces alternative gun bills
The Hill ^ | 04/16/13 07:56 AM ET | Jonathan Easley

Posted on 04/16/2013 7:01:33 PM PDT by Red Steel

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) on Monday introduced two gun bills, one of which is co-sponsored by a group of 10 Republicans, many of whom signed a pledge earlier this month to filibuster attempts to pass gun control.

The measures provide an alternative to the gun control bill the Senate will begin debate on this week, which would expand background checks on gun purchases, crack down on gun trafficking and beef up security in schools. GOP senators have vowed to block that bill, claiming it goes too far and infringes on the rights of gun owners.

Cruz introduced a bill to “protect law abiding citizens by preventing criminals from obtaining firearms.” Among the 10 GOP co-sponsors are Sens. Marco Rubio (Fla.), Rand Paul (Ky.), and Mike Lee (Utah), all signers of the filibuster pledge. Sen. Lindsey Graham (S.C.) is also a co-sponsor.

Cruz also introduced an alternative bill aimed at preventing the trafficking and straw purchasing of firearms that does not presently have any co-sponsors.

The text of the bills is not yet available.

A source close to negotiations told The Hill that Republicans are working on further legislation that would focus on enforcing, rather than expanding, the current background-check system and a bill that aims to improve mental health record-keeping.

A focused lobbying effort by families of the victims of the Newtown massacre last week and a background-check deal between Sen. Joe Manchin (W.Va.), a centrist Democrat who has an “A” rating from the National Rifle Association, and conservative Republican Sen. Pat Toomey (Pa.) created momentum for gun control legislation last week.

The Senate voted on Thursday to begin debate on the original bill and amendments despite filibuster threats, but the measure still faces an uphill climb. Democrats will need a handful of Republicans to vote in favor of a final bill to send it to the House, but the party can’t count on all of its members to support a final bill.

Cruz spokeswoman Catherine Frazier pointed to the NRA’s decision to grade lawmakers' votes on a procedural motion for the bill — a move that deviates from the group's standard protocol — as evidence the effort “to prevent such legislation is gaining momentum."

Sens. Manchin and Toomey are working to rally support for their background-check provision, and other senators are working on alternative gun bills, including Sens. Chuck Grassley (Iowa) and Graham.

— Updated at 8:08 a.m.

R


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment; tedcruz
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1 posted on 04/16/2013 7:01:33 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

How many crimes have background checks prevented?


2 posted on 04/16/2013 7:04:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Red Steel

Let’s tack an amendment on it that will deny Federal Funds to institutes of higher learning that hire felons convicted of gun crimes, bombings, etc.


3 posted on 04/16/2013 7:04:59 PM PDT by 11th_VA (DRONES DON'T KILL, CINCs KILL ...)
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To: Red Steel
Cruz also introduced an alternative bill aimed at preventing the trafficking and straw purchasing of firearms

Its already illegal and happens anyway.
4 posted on 04/16/2013 7:07:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Red Steel

I hope “improving mental health record keeping” means only having a citizens RKBA removed by a court of law with the citizen provided a chance to challenge the diagnosis.


5 posted on 04/16/2013 7:09:53 PM PDT by ez (Laws are for little people. Criminals, politicians, police, and David Gregory are exempt.)
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To: 11th_VA

follow-up ..Imagine the GOP deploring bombings, and gun crimes, and saying, “We have to keep these Felons away from our kids” ... and the Libs trying to defend the killers ... what a circus, I’d love it !!!


6 posted on 04/16/2013 7:09:56 PM PDT by 11th_VA (DRONES DON'T KILL, CINCs KILL ...)
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To: Red Steel

How ‘bout we just submit the Second Amendment and call that good?


7 posted on 04/16/2013 7:10:25 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: cripplecreek

Bad wording by the Hill. I’ve read Cruz’s alternative bill will be if you can carry in one state, you can carry in all US states.


8 posted on 04/16/2013 7:11:56 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Keep dangerous people off the streets and let free men be armed as they see fit.

Its not real complicated.


9 posted on 04/16/2013 7:12:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Red Steel

I don’t care. Selling out our constitution is selling out our constitution.


10 posted on 04/16/2013 7:13:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Cruz is not selling out the Constitution here.


11 posted on 04/16/2013 7:14:25 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: cripplecreek

I want to fool around with suppressors on the cheap and without any “help”.


12 posted on 04/16/2013 7:15:48 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Its OK with me.


13 posted on 04/16/2013 7:17:42 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Red Steel; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; AuntB; stephenjohnbanker; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; Liz; ...
RE :” Cruz introduced a bill to “protect law abiding citizens by preventing criminals from obtaining firearms.” Among the 10 GOP co-sponsors are Sens. Marco Rubio (Fla.), Rand Paul (Ky.), and Mike Lee (Utah), all signers of the filibuster pledge. Sen. Lindsey Graham (S.C.) is also a co-sponsor. Cruz also introduced an alternative bill aimed at preventing the trafficking and straw purchasing of firearms that does not presently have any co-sponsor
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Cruz spokeswoman Catherine Frazier pointed to the NRA’s decision to grade lawmakers’ votes on a procedural motion for the bill — a move that deviates from the group's standard protocol — as evidence the effort “to prevent such legislation is gaining momentum.

Check out this one.

14 posted on 04/16/2013 7:18:18 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Paladin2

It’s apparently NOT OK with my Bammy Mammy.


15 posted on 04/16/2013 7:20:30 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Red Steel

As long as “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED” is omitted, it is DOA.

I may or may not be extreme, but I am consistent.

TT


16 posted on 04/16/2013 7:24:24 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: TexasTransplant
Pass nothing short of repealing current gun laws that do nothing.

Four-fifths of all our troubles would disappear, if we would only sit down and keep still.

-Calvin Coolidge.
17 posted on 04/16/2013 7:28:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Red Steel

While addressing that which they have no authority to address. “..., shall not be infringed.” means what it says. If they were truly honoring the oaths they gave they would introduce nothing at the federal level. Once background checks were introduced the qualifying criterion was changed and they began to include a broader reange of disqualifying criterion. Now misdeameanor crimes are used to deny ownership and possession and crimes of that nature, which happened decades ago with no further incidents in the persons history to warrant a denial, are being used to deny them their right! These guys are further opening the can of worms!

Banning objects accomplishes nothing toward eliminating the misuse of an object by man. Banning the possession of an object for use to some and then continually expanding the criterion for denial of possession results in no one possessing the object. None of this makes sense to me based upon a reading of our founding documents and the writings of the founders.

But then I haven’t yet slept at a Holiday Inn Express.


18 posted on 04/16/2013 7:29:54 PM PDT by chulaivn66 (Semper Fidelis in Extremis)
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To: cripplecreek
How many crimes have background checks prevented?

How many crimes have they prevented or solved? By the way, does that remind anyone of "jobs created or saved?"

19 posted on 04/16/2013 7:31:14 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: sickoflibs

“Cruz spokeswoman Catherine Frazier pointed to the NRA’s decision to grade lawmakers’ votes on a procedural motion for the bill — a move that deviates from the group’s standard protocol — as evidence the effort “to prevent such legislation is gaining momentum.”

What does that mean? It makes no sense to me.


20 posted on 04/16/2013 7:42:48 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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