Posted on 05/02/2013 4:07:23 PM PDT by presidio9
Addressing Planned Parenthood last week, President Obama made what must be one of the least self-aware statements of his tenure. "Forty years after the Supreme Court affirmed a woman's constitutional right to privacy, including the right to choose, we shouldn't have to remind people that when it comes to a woman's health, no politician should get to decide what's best for you," he said. "No insurer should get to decide what kind of care that you get. The only person who should get to make decisions about your health is you."
It's no secret that
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Didn't slow you down one iota. You post an article claiming Zero is acting like a libertarian, despite all evidence to the contrary, and yet you continue to harass ME?
Not better and better, more ridiculous by the moment.
If you need to run through this one again, I am happy to do so. For the record: The libertarian postion on EVERYTHING (including abortion) is pro choice.
And we just saw you admitting that you are pro-life only as long as that position is compatible with every other right guaranteed in the Constitution. Which is another way of saying that you are actually pro choice and either too much of a weasel to admit it on this website or just too stupid to understand your own "logic."
yet you continue to harass ME?
Interesting, since you initiated this conversation.
The Libertarian Party doesn’t speak for all libertarians. Any more than the GOP speaks for all of us conservatives.
Run along now...
You seem to be having trouble reading very managable sentences, so follow closely: Nobody said anything about the Libertarian Party.
You did. I pointed out where libertarian philosophy does not condone murder. You keep coming back wtih some inanity referencing the Libertarain Parties platform...
You keep using that word, i do not think it means what you think it means... / I. Montoya
We've been over this. From the correct libertarian perspective abortion can not be murder until the baby is capable of surviving without the mother's help. Otherwise there is no moral difference between compelling her to carry to term and forcing a drug company to share its life saving medications. If you advocate for one, you must advocate from the other. I am a conservative, I am happily free of such slavery to philosophical consistency.
If you honestly believed abortion was murder, it stands to reason that this would be your number one political issue. You have made it clear that it is not.
I'll save myself the trouble and cut and just paste rather than repeating myself:
you were too stupid/lazy to refer five posts back to the origin. Even when I tried to help you. Three times.
The quote you seem so fixated on was:
"I would vote for an honest pro-life democrat (if such a thing existed)..."
This is the third time I reposted it. Feel free to show me that "honest democrat you're thinking about." I am not aware of any.
While you're at it, I still dying to hear what I it was you said I was lying about in post 98.
BTW, I will be working on a term paper most of the weekend, so I am enjoying the occasional diversion.
You, on the other clearly need to at least try to make some friends. It's Friday night.
>>I see we’ve returned to the “You’re a liberal” pretense.
Quack Waddle:
“Cheney Backs Key Element of Homosexual Agenda
Crosswalk ^ | Aug 26, 2004 | Susan Jones
Posted on 08/26/2004 10:58:47 AM PDT by presidio9
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presidio9: Idiot, Useful; 1 each.
Maybe people are reading too much into this. It’s not a serious look at libertarian philosophy or libertarian factions. Somebody just notices that Obama seems to be calling for less government when it comes to abortion and more government when it comes to everything else — that he seems to be invoking liberty here and opposing it everywhere else. Where you want to go after that and how you want to characterize his position is up to you.
You would rather vote for a pro-life Dem over a pro-life libertarian.
This says a lot about you...
None of it good.
Thanks for joining us newbie. And for making your debut on a three week old 100+ post thread with an unsolicited personal attack. That being said, I am having a hard time identifying your point here. Are you saying I agreed with Cheney's position on gay marriage? If so, you have more than a passing resemblance to someone else I know. Because if you'd bothered to read the thread you'd know that that is obviously not the case.
More interesting to me is why you, who signed to FR seven months ago, somehow keyed on a nine year old thread which, truth be told, I didn't really participate in all that much. I have posted almost 8,000 articles here, the majority of which I disagree with. Curious.
I seem to recall suggesting that your failure to accurately fact-check the points you chose to respond to was due to either laziness or stupidity. Since your dedication to this conversation is obvious, I will now conclude that that failure can only be due to stupidity.
Here, again, is the full statement that you were responding to:
While I agree that any so-called "pro-choice republican" is almost certainly going to lean libertarian, I clearly never used the word "libertarian" in my statement. And I definitely did not use the term "pro-life libertarian." We have already seen that such an animal does not exist.
That is four times that you have incorrectly addressed that statement and I have called attention to your stupidity/laziness/poor reading comprehension. What I find particularly amusing about your difficulty here is that I can remember writing that post five days ago and wondering if you would be stupid enough to key on it. I had intended it as a throwaway, but I included the "honest" and the "(if such a thing existed)" just to have a little fun. I confess to overestimating your intelligence, because I had no idea at the time that it would pay off such dividends. I stand by what I wrote, but I admit that I have been voting now for two decades and I have yet to come across such a democrat.
That being said, the lives of 25 million unborn children have been legally ended in that period. There can be no political cause more important than that.
The correct libertarian viewpoint on abortion, at least until the third trimester, is pro-choice. This doesn't work for so-called "libertarian conservatives" because it forces them to make an exception to the rules, something that is not allowed in libertarian political philosophy. So we end up with what you have here: A not-so-bright true believer playing mental gymnastics with the obvious.
I suppose that the majority of the conservatives here leaned at least a bit libertarian when we were in college and the world seemed much less complicated. There is a very good reason why most of us grew out of it as we got older and took on more responsibilities.
Is Cheney a libertarian or just another bloviated RINO gas bag?
He certainly seems to be taking the libertarian position on this issue. In general, I would say that he is generally the face of the so-called “Republican Establishment.”
I have no idea (A)what that has to do with this thread, or (B) how that justifies your unsolicited personal attacks.
So it seems Dick, the bloviating gas bag, is pretending to be a Republican just as Barry, another bloviating gas bag, is pretending to be a libertarian.
Are Dick and Barry “noobs”?
Hes more in line with the likes of Gosnell.
I’m sure you have a point to make, but I’m trying to help when I tell you it hasn’t happened so far. I think what you meant to say was that Cheney was deviating from the conservative position on gay marriage, correct?
Perhaps you should try using smaller words.
Are Dick and Barry “noobs”?
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