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1 posted on 05/04/2013 4:32:40 PM PDT by rickmichaels
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I think they should close down those sweatshops. Then the people who work in them would die of starvation and exposure, rather than building collapses.

All seriousness aside, sometimes the only thing worse than working in a sweatshop is not having a sweatshop to work in.

2 posted on 05/04/2013 4:42:47 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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Imagine - $.12 for labor. You couldn’t even get a member of the Garment Worker’s Union to put thread on their machine for $.12, let alone sew anything.

People want jobs brought back to the U.S. but how many of these same people would be willing to pay the extra cost for a knit shirt, the staple of many wardrobes, even if it were made in the USA. Some of us can no longer afford it, even if we wanted to.

Used to make tee shirts for the guys in my family but even decent material is getting hard to find.


3 posted on 05/04/2013 4:44:05 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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>> What does that $14 shirt really cost?

$14


4 posted on 05/04/2013 4:46:26 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: rickmichaels

Rejoice! Free trade at its finest-how it works on the other side. Remember Free Trade always means cheap and nasty, in more than one sense.


5 posted on 05/04/2013 4:56:58 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: rickmichaels

It would be much better if those people had no jobs and just starved.


6 posted on 05/04/2013 5:03:12 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to detonate anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: rickmichaels
I can sell your wife a $98 shirt, made in Canada, super quality that will last for years.

Women around here buy a lot of them.

But I think the average American Walmart/Target shopper would flee in horror if confronted with that price tag. They've demonstrated over and over that they want the Bangladeshi stuff, regardless of how it was made.

7 posted on 05/04/2013 5:05:35 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: rickmichaels

Who pays $14 for a shirt? Not I.


9 posted on 05/04/2013 5:22:46 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (For me, I plan to die standing as a free man rather than spend one second on my knees as a slave.)
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To: rickmichaels

Retail prices for underwear, tee shirts, knit shirts and the like didn’t drop when trade policy permitted offshoring of production. Retail margins jumped into the sixties and remained there.


10 posted on 05/04/2013 5:22:49 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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Of course what these commies never stop to ask is what kind of standard of living would these workers have if they didn’t work in a garment factory? In Bangladesh many people go hungry every day and would give anything to have one of those jobs.


12 posted on 05/04/2013 5:28:22 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: rickmichaels

The actual retail margin is, I read today in the WSJ, 1-2%.


16 posted on 05/04/2013 5:32:10 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: rickmichaels

I was sitting home alone one night
In LA, watching old Cronkite on the seven o’clock news.
Seems there was an earthquake that left nothing but a Panama hat
And a pair of old Greek shoes.

It didn’t seem like much was happening,
So I turned it off and went and got another beer.
Seems like every time you turn around
There’s another hard luck story that you gotta hear.

And there’s really nothing anyone can say.
And I never did plan to go anyway, to Black Diamond Bay.

Bob Dylan


22 posted on 05/04/2013 5:39:27 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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Shh! Not supposed to talk about this. We like our good deals on stuff made by slave labor! Shutting all our smelly smokey polluting factories saved the earth, too! /s


27 posted on 05/04/2013 5:52:59 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: rickmichaels

It usually takes a disaster and a reaction in the West, threats of boycotts fueled by the MSM and the Left, before Western companies start taking steps toward exercising some control over their Third World contractors. This is going to happen with Bangladesh, as it’s happened with China. Benetton has an egg on its face.


37 posted on 05/04/2013 6:57:00 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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pikers

a 400 golf driver costs about 65 bucks.

45 posted on 05/04/2013 8:32:33 PM PDT by stylin19a (Oboma -> Fredo smart)
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To: rickmichaels; Revolting cat!

Show me a news item on a phone support office in Bangledesh collapsing or a catastrophe hitting an offshored quality assurance staff and then maybe I can releate.


50 posted on 05/05/2013 5:25:34 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: rickmichaels

Worth repeating from tjic.com:


Say that we had first contact with some super (economically) advanced aliens.

…and pretty soon they set up factories here.

…and I was offered a job in one of these factories, doing software engineering.

The pay is $400k/year.

The work week is 20 hours long.

The work environment is far better than I’m used to – great internal decoration, well tended plants, a zen-like water garden near my desk, massages every other day.

…and then left-wing alien “sentient being rights activists” started protesting, because I was being forced to work for less than a quarter of the prevailing wage in Alpha Centauri, and my work hours were twice as long as the legal norms in Alpha Centauri, and I didn’t have every mandatory benefits like “other other year off”, and “free AI musical composition mentoring”.

…and then left-wing alien “sentient being rights activists” wanted to make it illegal for my employer and I to contract with each other at mutually beneficial terms.

…then I would be rip shit that some elitist who had never visited me, or knew of my actual alternatives on the ground presumed to decide that I shouldn’t have this opportunity.

Which brings me to my core point: Chinese factory conditions may not be the exact cup of tea for a San Francisco graphic designer or a Connecticut non-profit ecologist grant writer … but they’re, by definition, better than all the other alternatives available to the Chinese workers (or the factories would find it impossible to staff up).

Butt out, clueless activists.


63 posted on 05/05/2013 6:42:24 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: rickmichaels
From the article:
To get prices that low, workers see just 12 cents a shirt, or two per cent of the wholesale cost. That’s one of the lowest rates in the world—about half of what a worker in a Chinese factory might make

I don't understand why there's a fixation on Chinese wages. The current reality is that Chinese wages are now higher than Mexico's, which are in turn middle-of-the-road for Latin America:

Mexico's hourly wages are about a fifth lower than China's, a huge turnaround from just 10 years ago when they were nearly three times higher, according to new research by Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

Stagnant salaries in Mexico, fueled by strong population growth, will give Latin America's second-biggest economy an edge over China in the U.S. market, Bank of America Merrill Lynch economist Carlos Capistran said on Thursday.

Average hourly wages are now 19.6 percent lower in Mexico than China whereas in 2003 they were 188 percent more costly, according to the Bank of America study.


67 posted on 05/05/2013 6:55:49 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: rickmichaels

Inevitably, tragedies like this will lead to automation.

Shipping, labor, and factory margin are $2.00 per shirt.

I have to believe that is very close to the break even cost of a shirt made entirely by a machine.

That machine will be located in the consuming country, and it will be instantly programmable for new styles and sudden changes in demand.


116 posted on 05/06/2013 7:44:13 PM PDT by zeestephen
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