Posted on 05/16/2013 2:17:08 PM PDT by don-o
crap
20 hours to get F-18’s to Benghazi? Where the heck were they coming from, the factory? These are 1300 MPH jets! Even with refueling, they could go around the world in 20 hours.
Doesn’t pass the smell test.
Good. This is exactly the kind of post I was hoping for. I guess I have to register for Foreign Policy?
Circle the wagons. It doesn’t matter. You frauds have ZERO CREDIBILITY. I will tell you FIVE FACT not myths:
1) MRS. WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAY was asleep at the switch because of her WARPED IDEOLOGICAL belief that THE TERRORISTS WOULDN’T attack because we liberated from Khadafi
2) When the attack occurred she and THE FOREIGNER went into full defense mode not to protect americans but to protect their sorry anti american rearends from THE POLITICAL ATTACKS they knew would come because THEY SCREWED UP
3) This led directly to not responding to help our people and stand down to let them be slaughtered.
4) They have been LYING to the american people ever since again to PROTECT THEIR LEADERSHIP ROLL
5) They blocked access to the survivors again lying to protect their sorry rear ends.
I think most the Foreign Policy article is on FR, let me look and try and snag it for you.
I wish Dave Mellon would come back. He signed up at FR Sept 2, 2012, he started posting after the Benghazi attack with incredible information and work! It appears the last he posted was on Jan 1st.
Back in a few, will try and find the Foreign Policy thread on FR.
I would respectfully disagree on "2" because we simply do not know what assets were available and where they were located, At this time I do not even know how many trained potential combatants the U/S had in Benghazi. We do know that two of the dead were ordered to stand down and did not do so.
What evidence do you have that a bunch of thugs loaded with small arms and with access to mortars were driven to attack by a very silly video? Personally I prefer Hillary's inane “just out for a pizza” farce explanation to the spontaneous protest theory.
So how are any of the bullet points not mythical in nature?
Target-rich environment.
But then, we are not dealing with rational, logical people here. The scramble inherent in any CYA action must necessarily be chaotic and lacking in any kind of accuracy, rather like a sawed-off shotgun with no kind of choke on the muzzle.
Shooting themselves in the foot, not once, but repeatedly and with seemingly maniacal ferocity, is a frightening thing to watch.
LOL! What you said.... :-)
Well, considering my usually sparkling mind, I’ll just have to blame that on poor writing by the WP. ;-)
1.U.N. Ambassador Susan E. Rice gave a deliberately false account of the attack.
Clearly the account given by Ambassador Rice was deliberately false. But do any of us know with certainty that she participated in doctoring the talking points? Perhaps the deliberation was not on her part. Remember the adage that one should not rule out incompetence as a motive. She may have been truly clueless.
2. A faster military response would have saved at least some of the four Americans.
What was the timeline? How long after phone calls were made did the four remaining Americans survive? Without a timeline everyone is simply guessing.
3.Obama and Clinton should not be blamed.
True. This IS a myth.
4. The Benghazi attack could not have been predicted.
True. This IS a myth.
5. Benghazi is a pseudo-scandal manufactured by the GOP.
True. It is a REAL scandal of unplumbed depth.
No problem. I went ahead and registered. The Patreus / Broadwell connection is a good thing to bring forward.
Here’s the thread, just in case anybody wants to revisit it.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2958473/posts
Saw this one whilst hunting...interesting...
CIA denies it detained militants in Benghazi
CBS News ^ | November 12, 2012, 1:58 PM | (Associated Press)
Posted on Monday, November 12, 2012 1:44:56 PM by Olog-hai
The CIA is denying an assertion made by David Petraeus’ biographer and girlfriend that the agency held militants in Libya before the Sept. 11 attack. …
President Barack Obama issued an executive order in January 2009 stripping the CIA of its authority to take prisoners. …
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2958666/posts
I’m not going to bother reading his stupid article. But his five myths are five FACTS. When did facts become myths?
Even a kindergartner knows the difference between facts and stories, if you give them a bit of time to think about it.
It takes a stone-blind leftist to come up with this junk.
Are these this weekends talking points?
Oh, I think Rice lied in a ham-fisted manner for political purposes. I just think that they could’ve gotten by with ‘we’re working on it, fast-moving circumstances, etc.’
As for No. 2, you’re right we don’t have enough info yet on what assets were avialable and how effective they would’ve been. If none were avialable, that leads to the question of why not?
At then end of the day, though, barring some bombshell I just don’t see this as enough to bring down 0bama. 0bama could always default by saying that sometimes mistakes are made on security, the mission, etc. and people die like what happened in Beruit under President Reagan.’ That may be innacurate, but it would be enough to let him walk.
This is the most recent thread. There are dozens like it going all the way back to 9/12.
Gossip? Conspiracy theory? Truth? Who knows? This is why we need Congressional Hearings and even a Special Prosecutor to uncover the truth.
I just posted Benghazi scandal is an affront to the American military ethos
Thanks for that. Yes, there is a LOT here on FR. Finding it after a time is a problem. I thought maybe we could get some consolidation in one thread.
My sentence structure in post 9 was wacky. I was trying not to write a double positive. Or something like that.
To be clear - yes, the Benghazi attack could have been predicted. My argument is the WH schemed up this plan, not expecting it to go wrong, and so anything planned could be predicted.
Even if this was not a bungled up White Hut scheme, just the basic facts as we know them now lead us to realize this was gross incompetence with predictable results.
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