Posted on 05/30/2013 8:00:45 PM PDT by Ron C.
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Lookee here. Putin is threatening nuclear war over GMOs.
And you think I’m overreacting?
This is serious stuff.
I guess I erred, it’s a name comprised of syllables that are common in Japanese like Mitsubishi. (Is that “mit” lots of “subishi”?) It was founded in 1901 by a fellow named Queeny whose wife’s middle (maiden?) name was Monsanto. The first thing it made was the sugar substitute saccharin. Better living thru chemistry. Or worse living if done wrong.
There is a Monsanto Japan. FWIW.
You are apparently letting your emotions get the best of you. And you are wrong on both counts.
Yeah....I know....Putin thinks GMO gave the world honey bees a virus that is killing them. All sorts of doomsday scenarios have been published going back 50 years where the bees die and humans follow.
Next thing to happen is he will try to stir everyone up, and we will get nuked by several countries in order to save the world. I suppose that by destroying the USA, the bees will somehow survive the virus that we gave them in order to destroy Russia.
Kinda like the deal where we got all black people addicted to cocain.
It all makes so much sense if you stand on your head and blow bubbles at just the right angle and size.
Actually, I don't think that pollination in the boot is always how it works. In my experience with 27 species of exotic annual grasses I've noted that cleistogamy appears to operate primarily in times of drought stress when the plant is producing seed late in the season of a Mediterranean climate and might not even make it all the way out of the boot. Seed appearing earlier in the season seems to erupt so quickly that it could well be infertile upon emergence and available to open pollination as I see anthers on the spikelets. In a climate like Oregon which has a longer wet season than a place with snow melt it is more likely that this phenomenon might occur.
Now, I'm not so much of a grass geek that I know this for a fact, but my guess is it's probably legit. If you need more than that, I'd probably have to defer to an acquaintance of mine at UC Davis. I could make a few phone calls on Monday and ask him if I have it right.
Yup, 2,4-D works and it was just recertified. OTOH, is wheat sufficiently allelopathic that it can resist intrusion by cheat grass?
I’m pulling for Monsanto.
They’ve got all the right enemies.
Um yeah... that was the plan .. Round Up (glyphosate) has to be self perpetuating in order to be monetarily successful!!!
You Neo are a low information poster.
Perhaps I should have said “only a handfull of crop varieties”. My apologies if my phrasing was unclear.
Obama is their friend.
In defiance of the left in general.
BA, great post. No need to defend yourself or your credentials. Many of us who posted here have been attacked by Neoliberalnot. His favorite comeback seemed to be an attack on our credentials. “Where do you work?” “Have you ever worked in big ag?”
Where we work doesn’t change the facts. I don’t need to be an astronomer to observe and point out that the sun rises in the east or to read and article and quote the fact that Pluto has five known moons.
I have observed that Neoliberalnot’s last 40 posts were all on this thread. That’s pretty obsessive. If I had to guess why, here are my top guesses:
1. He has major financial ties to Monsanto. Either he works there, he is heavily invested in their stock, he is being paid to defend them, etc.
2. He has been a heavy user of their products and has a deep psychological need to defend that. (Kind of like a sports fanatic who defends bad behavior by his favorite player.)
I am also pro business and anti fascism. I am pro capitalism, but not crony capitalism.
I have great concern for the environment, but would like the EPA disbanded. The EPA does little to protect the environment and does much to play favorites and harass those who don’t pay to play or who are out of political favor.
There is a huge spectrum with totally organic and chemical free agriculture at one end and massively chemical-based at the other. I prefer a common sense balance that leans toward the former end. For example, I don’t believe we should routinely and prophylactically administer antibiotics to livestock, but if an animal gets sick, prudent use of modern medicine is warranted. I would not want to drink the milk of either a diseased cow or one that is on antibiotics. But once the antibiotics are out of her system and she is healthy, the milk is fine.
Interesting post ... studies are showing the GMO inserted toxins ending up in blood samples:
GM firms claimed toxins were destroyed in the gut
Toxins implanted into GM food crops to kill pests are reaching the bloodstreams of women and unborn babies, alarming research has revealed.
A landmark study found 93 per cent of blood samples taken from pregnant women and 80 per cent from umbilical cords tested positive for traces of the chemicals. link
Bill Gates doesn't just go along....more of a population control activist. His father was head of planned parent hood growing up.
From an interview he did with Bill Moyer
MOYERS: But did you come to reproductive issues as an intellectual, philosophical pursuit? Or was there something that happened? Did come up on… was there a revelation?GATES: When I was growing up, my parents were almost involved in various volunteer things. My dad was head of Planned Parenthood. And it was very controversial to be involved with that. And so it's fascinating. At the dinner table my parents are very good at sharing the things that they were doing. And almost treating us like adults, talking about that
It’s the natural things out in the world that will get you
I think I would rather eat a bowl of GMO Wheaties than some Hepatitis A infected “organic” berries.
New? No. I’ll take a better look. My attention has been more focused on the constiction of access to federal land and transportation routes, among other IOIs. Thank You for the info, PraiseTheLord.
Nope, I just conservation farm on the side. Having been inolved in the Ag industry most of my life it is easy to see the arm chair critics that have never no-tilled an acre of ground. Where you work simply opens the door on where you attack from—try attacking your own livelihood. I have no stock in Monsanto but have used their glyphosate preparation as well as their competitors. Monsanto manufactures valued products that have revolutionized the industry worldwide.
Everybody has concern for the environment and glyphosate and glyphosate resistant crops, have saved millions of tons of topsoil,reduced pesticide use by millions of gallons, and reduced fuel consumption by millions of gallons.
Finally, someone who works for a benchtop chemist is no expert in production agriculture in my mind, but if lawyers and arm chair experts represent those you would seek advice from, then I question the value of your judgement. Snake oil does have a market.
BTW, all businesses of any size do have lobbies, but the biggest lobbies are government workers, unions, and now illegal aliens.
This may be lost on you, but, Paracelsus, the father of toxicology made the observation in the 15th century, that the dose makes the poison. In short, background concentrations of poisons saturate the environment we live in. Examples: carbon monoxide in the air we breath, aflatoxin in the grain we eat and the milk we drink, cyanide containing compounds in many plants we consume, and so goes the endless list. We live in a toxic world. CO is found your blood, so is cyanide. See how it works? There is a threshold that must be reached to induce adverse effects from poisons all around us.
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