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Obamacare Shoving Doctors Out of Private Practice
fool.com ^ | June 8, 2013 | Keith Speights

Posted on 06/08/2013 10:26:23 PM PDT by grundle

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Here are 185 examples of Barack Obama’s lying, lawbreaking, corruption, cronyism, etc.
1 posted on 06/08/2013 10:26:24 PM PDT by grundle
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Treating them like car dealership owners, no doubt. Libs stay, conservatives OUT OF BUSINESS!!


2 posted on 06/08/2013 10:46:26 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: grundle
Obamacare kills private insurance and making those policies available across state lines
would have been the answer to affordable health care insurance for the working class.
Yes, I said Working Class. I don't give a crap about the lazy class.
3 posted on 06/08/2013 10:55:32 PM PDT by MaxMax
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I heard his speech Where he claimed that insurance providers had to spend 80 percent of your premiums on your personal Heath care. And if they did not, you would receive a rebate from the insurance company. Did he not realize he was just promoting Health SAVINGS Accounts??? But without any interest paid to you from the insurance company??


4 posted on 06/08/2013 11:14:42 PM PDT by Semperfiwife (Survivor of an IRS audit.)
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To: grundle
our family doc retired at age 57. He said he can no longer practice medicine. He was practicing bureaucracy.

So he now does international out reach medicine in Nepal (he's a climber)with eye surgeons and other public health practitioners.

5 posted on 06/08/2013 11:28:33 PM PDT by llevrok (Joe Biden is the Fredo Corleone of the Obama crime family.)
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"83% said that they were actually thinking about leaving the profession."

What's the matter with these doctors? Don't they know that health care is a RIGHT??

6 posted on 06/08/2013 11:32:20 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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LOL! Anyone who thinks they have a RIGHT to the skills and knowledge I have spent 4 decades acquiring (and a good deal of it busting ass 80-110 hrs a week) is gonna find they have a REAL PROBLEM! Good luck getting if I don’t feel like it.


7 posted on 06/08/2013 11:43:58 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Some docs are going private (as in patient handles the insurance claims, if any). Direct care, cash only.

Example One (price list)

Example Two

8 posted on 06/09/2013 12:02:06 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: grundle
The federal government controlling the insurance companies taking over the medical groups.

What could possibly go wrong?

9 posted on 06/09/2013 12:05:41 AM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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Amen, wastoute.

What they don't seem to realize in their declaration of "rights" is that they have no "right" to impose a corresponding obligation on someone else in order to satisfy those "rights". Obviously (except to them), that would be slavery.

10 posted on 06/09/2013 12:07:26 AM PDT by Ackackadack
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To: grundle

If I was a physician, I’d be giving serious consideration to “going Galt” right now.


11 posted on 06/09/2013 12:23:09 AM PDT by Ackackadack
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To: wastoute
Anyone who thinks they have a RIGHT to the skills and knowledge I have spent 4 decades acquiring (and a good deal of it busting ass 80-110 hrs a week) is gonna find they have a REAL PROBLEM!

As they should.

Did you hear Obunghole repeating that ridiculous claim about a "right" to healthcare the other day? It just blows me away that he can stand up in public and spew that illogic with a straight face.

It's obviously never occurred to morons like Obutthead that no one has a "right" to another's labor or services. Geez!

12 posted on 06/09/2013 12:41:00 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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As of 1/1/14, who will their patients be? The entire field of prospective patients will be divided into 3 groups.

1. Those with insurance whether they want it or not.

2. Those who are paying fines for being uninsured.

3. Illegal aliens.

Unless the direct pay Doctors can offer incremental value improvements over the entire population of doctors who take insurance, the part of the population which doesn’t want insurance but has been forced to buy it will be in a situation where it costs them more to use the less expensive physician. I don’t think a lot of them are going to want to do that. To open a direct-pay practice will be to lose roughly two thirds of potential patients.


13 posted on 06/09/2013 12:44:28 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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Unfortunately, too many docs a pretty stupid when it comes to little things, like librty. I remember some wearing buttons in Med School that claimed healthcare was a right. Today’s young docs are almost all libturds. Incomprendable.


14 posted on 06/09/2013 12:44:39 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Ah, but you lose the two thirds you don’t want anyway...


15 posted on 06/09/2013 12:46:19 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Unless the direct pay Doctors can offer incremental value improvements over the entire population of doctors who take insurance, the part of the population which doesn’t want insurance but has been forced to buy it will be in a situation where it costs them more to use the less expensive physician.

Well, maybe they can head south. To Central America. That way, they can continue to see their (traveling) patients and forget to pay US taxes in the bargain. If it comes to pass, more power to them!

16 posted on 06/09/2013 12:54:27 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Semperfiwife

I don’t think he’s bright enough, to grasp health savings accounts. Remember....he just reads speeches. Beyond that, it’s all blank.


17 posted on 06/09/2013 3:21:21 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: wastoute
“Anyone who thinks they have a RIGHT to the skills and knowledge I have spent 4 decades acquiring (and a good deal of it busting ass 80-110 hrs a week) is gonna find they have a REAL PROBLEM! Good luck getting if I don’t feel like it.”

Amen. However, as someone who has been doing this for a significant period of time, and thus who has likely put aside enough money to give you leverage, you are in a much better position to pick and choose how or if you practice. For many it's not going to be that simple.

I've talked to a lot of colleagues over the past year who are just hoping to get another 3-5 years under their belt and then walk away. For those just out of residency or fellowship, life isn't going to be that simple - especially considering the amount of debt many of them have.

Two of the biggest drivers of the move away from private practice are 1) hospitals getting more, sometimes more than twice more, for the same services / tests / procedures than a private office / clinic etc. receives, and 2) the costs and hassles involved in instituting and maintaining electronic medical records to comply with the federal rules on this.

The inevitable result of empowering hospitals and hospital corporations vs. private physicians is that there are more administrators, at all levels, and they make increasingly larger salaries than most of the docs who are actually seeing patients.

We all know that getting docs out of private practice and into hospitals is only step one. Once we are herded into one place, and thus easier to shoot, they will shoot us (figuratively, of course). Those increased payments hospitals receive will be decreased, and those working in administrative capacities will squeeze their physician employees in order to maintain their own lifestyles and incomes.

The inevitable result? Demoralization and demotivation. Guess what follows and what the impact will be on the patients.

18 posted on 06/09/2013 4:07:40 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Semperfiwife
I heard his speech Where he claimed that insurance providers had to spend 80 percent of your premiums on your personal Heath care. And if they did not, you would receive a rebate from the insurance company. Did he not realize he was just promoting Health SAVINGS Accounts??? But without any interest paid to you from the insurance company??

And that will bankrupt them, remember the Afrcian American Women caller from Georgia calling into Rush from inside an Insurance Company? The actuaries calling into Levin's show?

Oboingo upped this from 65% to 85% percent and they will have no reserve margins. They will collapse upon themselves, what a mess...

19 posted on 06/09/2013 5:04:15 AM PDT by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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Anyone going into medicine now has judgement problems. Anyone who is in medicine should retire early in protest of nobamacare. People must suffer to assist in the exposure of this nobamacare abomination.


20 posted on 06/09/2013 6:13:27 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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