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To: Norseman

“Who’s to say that China doesn’t get him first, and squeeze him for every bit of knowledge he has regarding NSA operations, now that he’s outed himself?

So, no, you can’t, actually....:

Yeah, like that’s going to happen when the eye of everyone in the U.S. and elsewhere in the world is focussed on Mr. Snowden at this moment in time. I’m sure the Chinese are going to swoop down and kidnap Mr. Snowden to interrogate him with the whole world watching. Which is why Mr. Snowden was very smart in outing himself, to protect himself from any side of the equation.


204 posted on 06/10/2013 9:06:03 AM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: flaglady47

>>Yeah, like that’s going to happen when the eye of everyone in the U.S. and elsewhere in the world is focussed on Mr. Snowden at this moment in time. <<

Oh, really? Exactly where is he then? What hotel, what room?

Are you so sure he hasn’t already been picked up?

How would we know? And how long would it take, if he did disappear, before conspiracy theorists start theorizing that it’s our government, not the Chinese, that have him (whether true or not)?

You seriously don’t think the Chinese are trying to find him right this moment? I suspect they know exactly where he is, and are laying plans for his transit to mainland China in the very near future. Hong Kong was not the wisest choice, in my opinion.

Look, you sound so certain that his treason did no damage to our national security. All I’m saying is that you can’t know that, and that in the end it could do serious damage.

And I do think our government surveillance has run amuck. The question is whether or not he behaved treasonously in exposing the extent of surveillance. I don’t think there’s any question about that. He did. And if the Chinese get hold of him, what he’s revealed so far might pale in comparison to what they are able to squeeze out of him later.


222 posted on 06/10/2013 9:25:58 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: flaglady47
In The Gulag Archipelago, Solzhenitsyn has a chapter on arrests, how the bureaucrats made a game of categorizing arrests many ways: night time in your apt, at work, at the train station, broad daylight on a crowded street, on and on. I am not saying the mainland Chinese gov has the interest to do this, just that in a city of 10 million, one solitary unprotected person can be scooped up any number of ways.
254 posted on 06/10/2013 10:15:01 AM PDT by jobim (.)
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