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1 posted on 06/12/2013 8:12:50 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

The thought of a ConCon being thrown open in an age of low-info voters scares the literal crap out of me.


2 posted on 06/12/2013 8:15:10 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: EveningStar

We need one, but as the Constitution is inactive, it won’t help.


3 posted on 06/12/2013 8:15:18 AM PDT by Paladin2 (;-))
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To: EveningStar

Like privacy? Like RKBA?


4 posted on 06/12/2013 8:15:21 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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er do we not have the 4th oh wait even a couple of sheep freepers think it’s alright to spy and would rather attack the guy who told the world the NSA and the obama Govt is spying on us all .

We have enough laws and rules and we have a constitution , how about going by it and if the obama Govt can’t abide by the laws then why should we


5 posted on 06/12/2013 8:17:21 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: EveningStar
Yes we do. Here is the proposed text:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized
Oh wait....
6 posted on 06/12/2013 8:17:57 AM PDT by The Free Engineer
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hell we need aconstitutional amendment to protect our constitution- like judge napolitano said htism ornign basically that what we’re seeign with hte abuses of power was the very reasons our constitutionwas set up i nthe first place- and he said, this is exactly what you see when there are no reigns on executive power- the constitution is no longer even a barrier to them


7 posted on 06/12/2013 8:18:41 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: EveningStar

That’s how abortion became legal in the US. The Supreme Court found a right to privacy in the Constitution.


8 posted on 06/12/2013 8:19:27 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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You need a Constitution Police ,go against the constitution and you will be investigated by the IRS ,NSA, DHS ,SS and the FBI ,reverse of what Obama is doing LOL sorry


9 posted on 06/12/2013 8:19:55 AM PDT by molson209
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To: EveningStar

We already have a Supreme Court ruling that recognizes the right to privacy (although i would argue that the 9th amendment does as well). It’s called Roe v. Wade.

About time that conservatives started citing that ruling to support conservative arguments against government intrusions into other aspects of our lives — the NSA surveillance, and while we’re at it, intrusive IRS audits, investigations and tax return requirements.


10 posted on 06/12/2013 8:20:34 AM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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We’ve got one. Its called the 4th amendment.


11 posted on 06/12/2013 8:21:33 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: EveningStar

No. We already have one.


12 posted on 06/12/2013 8:23:22 AM PDT by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: EveningStar

No Constitutional amendment about privacy will affect the spying. It is the nature of government. In matters of collecting information, if it can be done it will be done. The only amendment that might help, if it did not lead to the formal abrogation of the Constitution and a full on Coup would be one limiting the government revenue and spending to a 5% cut of the GDP and/or one that reduces the government agencies to the four cabinet positions of the first Administration and limits government employment to .5% of the employed population and some et ceteras.


14 posted on 06/12/2013 8:27:52 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economiws In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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We already have the 4th Amendment, and it is being violated. If we cannot hold our government accountable for that amendment we cannot hold it accountable for anything else.


20 posted on 06/12/2013 8:41:14 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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As part of our “Next 10 Amendments” debate series, we’re asking our readers if it’s time for a constitutional amendment to protect their privacy.

This kind of thinking, at this stage of the game, shows just how far some people have their heads up their rear ends. It's like you're in your bed at midnight, and you hear the sound of breaking glass coming from the window downstairs, then you hear voices and the sounds of ransacking, so you look at your wife and say, "Do you think I should go downstairs and inform them that what they're doing is illegal?"
23 posted on 06/12/2013 8:42:47 AM PDT by fr_freak
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Wasn’t the Roe v. Wade decision based mostly on the woman’s right to privacy?


25 posted on 06/12/2013 8:45:07 AM PDT by austinaero
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As part of our “Next 10 Amendments” debate series, we’re asking our readers if it’s time for a constitutional amendment to protect their privacy.

There is already one.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.[1]

27 posted on 06/12/2013 8:56:31 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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The idea that there exists a "right to privacy" that permits the taking of an innocent life is the apex of sophistry -- the absolute nadir of philosophy. The right to be left alone is inherent in the dignity of the individual. So inherent, it was understood to be so and perhaps for that reason there was seen no need to enumerate it. However, in a day which is properly said to have embraced a "Culture of Death" -- that is, a culture which is anti-life, such inherent dignity can no longer be assumed to be understood, nor to be present in the interpretation of its laws, any more than can be expected the same understand of the "Creator" from which flow inalienable rights as understood by the Founders.

source

28 posted on 06/12/2013 8:57:05 AM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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No. The Fourth Amendment is just fine.

What we need is a way to rid ourselves of terrorists without a police state. It's simple: Let the "well regulated militia" function as intended. Put a bounty on them with stiff penalties for false arrest.

31 posted on 06/12/2013 9:02:01 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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Needed constitutional amendments.

1) To distinguish civil rights, that are natural and God-given to individuals, from corporate rights, that are granted by government. Corporations need some rights, but they do not need civil rights, which are reserved for human persons.

2) Since the senate will never agree to the repeal of the 17th amendment, a new system is needed to restore federalism, the power of the states. The best means to do so would be the creation of a Second Court of the United States, based on the original organization of the senate.

*Not* a federal court, but a court of 100 appointed by legislature only, state judges, on terms similar to those of their senators, who would *not* review constitutionality, which is a federal court purpose, but to review *jurisdiction*. That is, after the lower federal courts have reviewed cases for constitutionality, the 2nd Court would determine if they are truly a federal issue, or if they should be returned to the state courts, as *not* a federal issue. This would strongly reign in all three national branches of government.

Their other purpose would be that of original jurisdiction to all lawsuits between the national government and the states. So instead of federal courts hearing these cases at first, it would give the states considerable power over the national government.

Importantly, while the Supreme Court *could* hear appeals from the 2nd Court, if 2/3rds of the states found one way, the Supreme Court could not overturn their decision.

3) A prohibition of federal largess amendment, in which all federal funding to individuals must go through their state government, as block grants. The only direct payment to individuals from the US government should be for paychecks and retirement pay for former USG employees.


32 posted on 06/12/2013 9:12:38 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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Ten more amendments for the tyrants to ignore are not worth the pen and paper needed to write them down.

We’re past pen and paper and the time is come for fortitude, determination, mettle, and nerve.


33 posted on 06/12/2013 9:18:37 AM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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