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1 posted on 06/12/2013 8:12:50 AM PDT by EveningStar
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How about constitutional amendment say we must follow the Constitution. With details like when elected to office people must defend the constitution.

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Even if some is actively trying to change the constitution they must follow it even during this process.

People must pay taxes while trying to repeal the 16th adornment.


34 posted on 06/12/2013 9:30:14 AM PDT by ThomasThomas (A bad hair day is not a mental issue, or is it?)
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As part of our “Next 10 Amendments” debate series, we’re asking our readers if it’s time for a constitutional amendment to protect their privacy.

Activist justices wrongly pulled the so-called right to privacy out of the 9th Amendment in Griswold v. Connecticut.

US citizens need to address the real problem concerning privacy which is that the pirates that citizens are unthinkingly electing as their federal lawmakers are not upholding their oaths to protect and defend the Constitution, wrongly ignoring the federal government's constitutonally limited powers in particular.

37 posted on 06/12/2013 9:48:02 AM PDT by Amendment10
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Wait a second. I thought that the SCOTUS’ abortion decision was based on a right to privacy that Justice Douglas had located in the Constitution’s emanations and penumbras?


38 posted on 06/12/2013 9:48:21 AM PDT by white trash redneck (Just one of B. Hussein Obama's "typical white people")
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I thought there were already emanations from penumbras that covered this.

At least that's what the liberals told me when it served their own privacy purposes at the time.

-PJ

41 posted on 06/12/2013 10:20:16 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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No point in adding any more amendments if they wont abide by the current ones.

The problem with the Constitution is its gross misinterpretation by Liberal judges & it being ignored by those charged with enforcing it, not its lack of adequate, proper content.


43 posted on 06/12/2013 10:57:52 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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What's shouldn't be, but apparently is, needed is an explicit statement of a few principles which all people should recognize as being requirements for legitimate governance.

To start with...

  1. The fact that an action is not so patently illegitimate as to require a remedy does not imply that the action is legitimate. Likewise, if finding an action to be patently illegitimate would justify a remedy that would be impractical, it is better to acknowledge that the action is illegitimate but cannot practically be rolled back, than to imply that the action was legitimate.
  2. All government personnel are required to make a good faith effort to abide by the Constitution, and not merely endeavor to avoid violating it so badly as to justify a remedy.
  3. The fact that a government action is not undertaken in a good faith effort to abide by the Constitution is, in and of itself, sufficient to imply that the action is patently illegitimate and worthy of remedy, regardless of whether the action could have been legitimate if done in good faith.
  4. The question of whether particular actions performed by particular individuals were done in good faith shall be a legitimate subject of factual inquiry; for example, if a prosecutor presents evidence gathered by a search, the defendant has the right to present evidence that he feels would show that the people conducting the search were not making a good faith effort to abide by the Constitution [which, among other things, requires that searches be conducted in reasonable fashion, and that those conducting the search make a good faith effort to avoid unnecessarily damaging the person's property]; a jury should be instructed that if they find that a search was not conducted in good faith, they should not construe any evidence thereby in any fashion detrimental to the defendant.
Much of the incrementalism of the government derives from the belief that a court's failure to find that an action implies a remedy implies a new threshold for what is legitimate. It shouldn't be necessary to state that such failure does not expand the scope of what's legitimate, but apparently it is.
45 posted on 06/17/2013 3:55:19 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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