“Why do Republicans who defended Bush now chastise Obama for ruthlessly fighting terrorists?”
Because 0bambi is fighting Tea Partiers, not Terrorists.
Why people want to live in a police state is insane.
This is what some have wanted for many years. Protest it, I say.
I listened to lanny davis spinning on the NSA story this morning. His smoke was that 1. it started on Bush’s watch, 2. no one is doing anything illegal, and 3. it’s prevented another 9/11.
The squishy moderate interviewing him (I forget the name) failed to take him to task on any of these fallacious points. And that’s how it is all going to settle to the bottom. Too many sheeple think that it’s OK for someone to go through your undies drawer - as long as it’s done in the name of Defending America.
What else is the government doing to invade our privacy? Until a few days ago, paranoids were people who claimed Washington had cast a vast electronic net over our communications. Who isn’t a bit paranoid now?
The likes of Michael medved ore one of the following:
1. A fool. I don’t think so.
2. A tool of the establishment - hopefully this is the most likely scenario.
3. He knows something we don’t and there are some very real reasons why this must NOT get legs. I have a great deal of respect for this man’s mind, which is why I think there is a real risk that this really could be the situation.
But I’m still going with 2. 3 is too scary.
The article’s author is correct.
This is war. The source of the information doesn’t matter. What matters is its accuracy.
One who thinks a few more Republican congressmen and Presidents McCain and Romney could straighten out the USA will of course see treason.
>>Why do Republicans who defended Bush now chastise Obama for ruthlessly fighting terrorists?”
It validates Bush’s programs and also to those who set the program up and defended those programs while they were being bashed throughout the media; for so long.. so in that attempt they can’t even see their own policies have went too far and being unconstitutional. They are going further now than Bush did unless more info comes out to prove otherwise. Imo. Police state.
Actually, there were quite a few of us who pointed out that the powers we were giving to Bush would be ABUSED by the next Administration should it be controlled by Democrats.
We were excoriated, denigrated, called paranoid, etc...
Reap the whirlwind.
I believe Snowden & Prism are obvious Obama concoctions to get our mind off of the real scandals. (Benghazi & IRS). We are living in a state of tyranny and we are frogs in 211 degree water. Noone cares abour liberty or freedom or the Constitution. Lets just line up and get our RFID chip and get on with it!
Am in agreement with Ron Fournier’s piece in The National Journal...EXCEPT (and a choking point with me) he characterizes Obama as a “defender” of the the “democratic process” where he forgot to add when it suits his socialist agenda . Then Fourniers chooses the latest talking points a 2009 attempted bombing using a phone call to a suspected area in foreign country. But not the 2013 Boston bombing using local calls and emails. .
We’ve had enough. The Angry Mob is gathering.
I cannot figure out why some are screaming traitor on the leak-er and could care less about the very head of the agency tasked to spy on US flat out lying to a Congressional committee...
I think back to old bjClinton being commended on his ability to compartmentalize. I think that is a mental disorder that affects the majority of peoples upon this earth.
The NSA did not dream up this task all upon its own. Congress had to approve the funding to hire private contractors to mine data. (Most especially our own weeping Bonehead.) For all we know some judge did give authority under the mountains of legislation passed yearly by Congress that gave authority for this action. Yet those who are supposedly working for US feign outrage over a single employee saying ‘guess what’ Americans you and everything you do is being watched.
Strangely no administration in my living memory has done squat to secure our borders. Instead they have sent unofficial and official welcome mats to the outcast of this globe. AND no requirement is made of these supposed citizens to follow the same laws we are required to adhere.
We are getting punished from all quarters. The political system, the economic system, the educational system and last but certainly not least the religious system.
The purpose is to destroy the very independent middle class.
The boys and girls got no choice in the matter.
They gotta trust the 29 year old high school dropouts of the world.
They have grown the police state beyond the capacity of the public school system to educate as well as indoctrinate the mechanics necessary to fill up the Utah desert with metadata.
Edward Snowden is a dangerous man to any police state because he appears to be a fellow that thinks for himself. He read the Fourth Amendment for himself and is in no need of pontificating law professors like George W Obama or military lawyers like Goober Graham to explain the Bill of Rights to him.
The defenders of the police state are jokes.
They call Edward a narcissist. In the modern world a narcissist is anyone who opens a Twitter or Facebook account and voluntarily seeks attention by disclosing personal information about themselves to the entire world. The Tsarnaev brothers were narcissists, not Edward.
The Fox News Channel is owned by some media mogul who was wiretapping innocents in the U K not on the grounds of national security but for nothing more than filthy lucre. It comes as no surprise that they got the likes of Karl Rove telling the masses to trust the police state whether it is operated by Barry H Bush or George W Obama.
It is much more fun to watch MSNBC. Lawrence O'Donnell is the tank and Barry can do no wrong.
But give Rachel Madcow some credit. She is showing a bit of resistance. She had a great piece the other night where she told how the Chinese had officially protested a letter McCain had written in support of Taiwan, but the letter was still in the McCain campaign computer system and had never been sent.
For clowns like Peter King to claim how Snowden had compromised our national security to our enemies is laughable.
The Chinese don't need twenty-nine year old high school dropouts to compromise our computer networks, in Red China working for the police state is a profession and their mechanics have been educated and indoctrinated and are too damned scared to ever a utter a breath of what they know.
Red China is a real police state. This is only a wannabe police state trying to get by on unindoctrinated twenty-nine year old dropouts who will not sell their soul for six-figure incomes in exotic locales.