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TWA Flight 800 investigators break silence in new documentary, claim original conclusion about cause
Fox ^ | 6/18/13

Posted on 06/18/2013 5:51:17 PM PDT by workerbee

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To: bmwcyle

I still wonder if this is what that sneaky scumbag thief Sandy Berger was stuffing down his pants.


141 posted on 06/18/2013 8:52:22 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Chode

Yeah. And that plane that went down near Pittsburgh on 9-11 wasn’t shot down either.


142 posted on 06/18/2013 8:56:30 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

143 posted on 06/18/2013 9:03:47 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: DHerion

I recall quite well being scolded for even suggesting that dozens of service people must know if there were missiles being launched that night. The scolders kept repeating that it could not have been a missile because it is impossible to keep that many witnesses from speaking up. Of course, civilian witnesses who saw even one who videoed the thing said something flashed up from the surface then the plane exploded. But the fithful government collected all those stories and promptly deep sixed them, as well as the video the guy took from the dock where he had a boat party going on.


144 posted on 06/18/2013 9:31:40 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Lancey Howard

It is more likely that Sandy the burglar was stuffing proof of little barry’s ineligibility down his pants. But the Clintons were told not ot use that material and barry would be the next pResident.


145 posted on 06/18/2013 9:33:22 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: RayChuang88
1. Do we have explosives chemical residue from any of the wreckage consistent with a bomb going off? Both C4 and Semtex plastique explosives leave behind a distinctive chemical residue after the explosion.

2. Do we have any warhead fragmentation pattern consistent with the explosion of the warhead from a MANPAD portable surface-to-air missile?

Yes, but not of those particular explosives. We had a chemical residue trail analyspzed as rocket fuel residue on the backs of specific seats. . And yes, strange round shrapnel recovered from multiple bodies that is a signature of certain anti-aircraft missiles. . But they were covered up. There was overwhelming evidence that a missile struck that plane. The math did not permit the time required for the "zoom climb" scenarios of either the CIA or the NTSB cartoons. (see Swordmaker's detailed timelines — do a search of FR for it) The only scenario that fits with the location of the debris fields (including the anomalous debris field 90° away from the vector of flight) is the strike of a missile and a ballistic fall without power of both the nose and main body of the plane . . . and the debris ejected by the missile transecting the plane and carrying parts with it that landed in the anomalous 90° field. Ten there is the Mach to radar track that intersected the plane . . .

146 posted on 06/18/2013 9:40:51 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: UCANSEE2

I read or heard that right after the twa explosion that the Toon signed an executive order prohibiting whistle blower protection for Navy Seals...who were the ones searching for debris in the ocean....


147 posted on 06/18/2013 9:51:14 PM PDT by cherry
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To: MHGinTN
It is more likely that Sandy the burglar was stuffing proof of little barry’s ineligibility down his pants. But the Clintons were told not ot use that material and barry would be the next pResident.

I think the Clintons have had the goods on the African communist all along. They just couldn't find a clean way to make it work while making sure they could never be named as sources. I believe their problem was that the Democrat "mainstream" newsrooms refused to help them - - those newsroom scum wanted the African communist way too much to do anything to get in the way.

It should never be forgotten that it was the Clintons who gave birth to the "birther" movement.

During the first Obama presidential campaign, in August, 2008, Bill Clinton was asked by ABC News if he thought Obama was qualified to be president. Clinton knew what was meant by the question but instead of commenting about Obama's character, experience, knowledge of foreign and domestic policy, and leadership abilities, etc., he offered this rather cryptic reply:

"The constitution sets qualification for the president. And then the people decide who they think would be the better president."

"The constitution sets qualification for the president"? That's his answer?? Bill Clinton made this reference to the Constitution shortly after America's latest fad, the "community organizer" from Chicago, popped up out of nowhere to steal his wife's destiny by winning - - in rather sleazy fashion (including the shameless playing of "the race card") - - the Democrat party's nomination for President.

It has been my opinion since that time that the Clintons know something, and that it was they who quite deliberately fanned the flames of controversy over Obama's birth. Remember, it was Philadelphia lawyer Philip Berg, a prominent campaign-fund bundler for Hillary Clinton, who launched *the first* Obama eligibility lawsuit. That lawsuit was filed in August of 2008, shortly after Bill Clinton made his curious reference to the Constitution when asked if he thought Obama was qualified to be President. Coincidental timing? Sure it was.

But the Democrat "mainstream" newsrooms never vetted Obama And why would they? Everything anybody wanted to know about Obama they could read in his two autobiographies, right? So... what's to vet? Despite the forged documents, the white-washed personal history, and even some old Obama campaign literature that claimed Barry was born in Kenya, the Democrat "mainstream" newsrooms were happy to simply take the word of their African communist candidate - - on everything.

Meanwhile...

Associated Press Devotes 11 Reporters to "Fact Check" Sarah Palin Book

148 posted on 06/18/2013 9:56:12 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: UCANSEE2
"So, reeling back toward Flight 800 as I recall I was the only one on any of the threads to note that a bolid coming in over the horizon would look like a missile streaking up and not a meteor simply going into low orbit where it connected with an airplane."

After slicing on Occam's Razor, your explanation seems likeliest.

However, that doesn't explain why the Feds went to such ridiculous lengths to conduct such a crazy explanation that defies known principals of flight and the law of gravity.

That theory was raised, but it doesn't survive the triangulation of the witnesses viewpoints. A bolide would only appear to rise, coming over the horizon from a single vector, not from the 270° degrees around that the witnesses observing the incident were located. The bolide hypothesis, is, ahem, shot down.

149 posted on 06/18/2013 9:56:21 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: MHGinTN
As I recall, IIRC, we had freepers explain what had to have happened, and what they posted more closely matches missle downing than anything the lying government spewed forth through the propaganda media. I’m waiting for the truth to finally come out regarding Oklahoma City. Little barry boy may yet show Clinton to be more of a devil than barry is feckless.

That would have been me, amount others, along with some dis-information artists toeing the administration's talking point line. . . Taking the counter point.

150 posted on 06/18/2013 9:59:28 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker
Yup, you were, as I recall, the primary one giving us excellent engineering input. There was a physicists, also, who I believe was one of the ones who left FR in the Darwin fracases. His explanation of the impossibility for 747 to climb without the nose section, open to the front convinced me that the government was lying and would lie to cover for Clinton's exposed flank should the truth surface right before his re-election cycle.

Now, if we can get admissions regarding Oklahoma City, and the terrorist attack on the Murrah Bldg ...

151 posted on 06/18/2013 10:08:01 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN
Yup... Here's the link to my time line: Swordmaker's TWA 800 Timeline

And this one is to the physics of the ZOOM CLIMB impossibility thread: Zoom Climb Thread

152 posted on 06/18/2013 10:14:28 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: ladyjane
its not us "letting" our country slip away.....there are tremendous unstoppable forces that all civilizations go thru to the end.....an exponentially apathetic populace, fat with over abundance, too lazy to fight or stand up to anything, rationalizing everything just to get along, and on top of that, allowing non citizens to invade the country...

most of us have studied hard, worked hard, did all the "right" things, like our parents and grandparents before us...the forces of success are just against us...

153 posted on 06/18/2013 10:19:08 PM PDT by cherry
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To: dragnet2
>" I personally do not believe a single word from anyone affiliated with any government agency."

Generally a safe bet. It's when they tell the truth that gives me the willies!

154 posted on 06/18/2013 10:49:41 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set)
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To: LyinLibs
>"this month is “Throw everything at the wall to distract from Benghazi” month,"

Dear Leader doesn't want to do the time for negligent mohamicide.

155 posted on 06/18/2013 11:06:37 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set)
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To: Bryan24
With the Olympics starting up in mere weeks and the 1996 Election coming up in 4 months, there was no way they could admit that terrorists shot it down.

Don't forget they were busy pumping the "domestic terrorist" meme, to the exclusion of Muslims, (sound familiar?).

Much of current policy is an extrapolation/extension of Clinton policy, and aside from the 'hope and change shuffle', the song and dance is the same.

156 posted on 06/19/2013 12:55:20 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: workerbee

I believe Al Gore oversaw the investigation and report.


157 posted on 06/19/2013 1:15:09 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: workerbee

Did any terrorist group claim responsibility?


158 posted on 06/19/2013 2:10:27 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: stockpirate

IIRC, the debris field also indicated a missile.


159 posted on 06/19/2013 2:17:50 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: workerbee

Bump for the morning crowd. Interesting thread. Interesting timing.


160 posted on 06/19/2013 2:52:43 AM PDT by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation is costly.)
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