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Day 13 (Week #3) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread…
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | June 26, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 06/26/2013 5:34:24 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, June 26th, is DAY #13 (of 3rd week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case. An explosive second day of deconstructed witness testimony took place yesterday. Which leads to the “big question”:

Will witness #8, Rachel Jeantel, be called to the stand today?

[Yesterday could] … only be characterized as an utter debacle for the prosecution in Florida v. Zimmerman. Besides the testimony of a couple of highly professional law enforcement witnesses, the testimony of the the other State witnesses ranged from signing George Zimmerman’s praises, to acknowledging the utility of following a suspicious person from a distance, to being utterly discredited by razor sharp cross-examination of the defense.

Before we even get to the disaster that was the State’s witnesses, however, we first have to discuss this morning’s hearing and the extent to which it evanescent is the State’s case against George Zimmerman. State: Zimmerman Is So Good, He Must Be Bad ............

(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: trayvonmartin; trial; zimmerman
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To: XenaLee

Lunch time until 1:00.


181 posted on 06/26/2013 9:02:08 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: UCANSEE2

This is one very confused witness....

She’s saying GZ was on top... during the scuffle AND when the shot(s) went off. That’s damaging testimony... or, at least it WOULD be... if she wasn’t such a dunce.

Now, she’s saying she couldn’t actually SEE out of the window? Sheesh...


182 posted on 06/26/2013 9:03:09 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them f)
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To: Uncle Chip

This trial is such a farce and the message is already been sent. You better just take your beating from whatever black thug decides to give it to you. The left hates self defense.
Take your beating or lose everything including your freedom.


183 posted on 06/26/2013 9:03:24 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Uncle Chip

Thanks UC!!


184 posted on 06/26/2013 9:03:38 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Betty Jane

O’Mara gets Manalo to admit she based her determination of who was bigger based on a photo of Martin in a football uniform. She said he looked 17 in that photo. (The photo was taken several years earlier.)


185 posted on 06/26/2013 9:03:56 AM PDT by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
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To: Betty Jane

She said she doesn’t know who is bigger now. Another witness discredited.


186 posted on 06/26/2013 9:03:58 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: All

Anyone know a good twitter hash tag related to the trial? Thanks in advance.


187 posted on 06/26/2013 9:04:30 AM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic
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To: Uncle Chip

Score one for Ben Crump and his propaganda campaign.


188 posted on 06/26/2013 9:05:08 AM PDT by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
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To: Betty Jane
The defense shows Manalo a picture of George Zimmerman’s bloodied, beaten face after she said she saw him right after the shooting. She says she didn’t see his face like that. How the heck does that happen if she’s telling the truth/

The picture speaks for itself. She didn't say she didn't see him like that, she says she only saw him from the side.

The important thing is that the photo was shown to the jury. If she wants to dance around the evidence, then it only goes to discrediting her as a witness.

189 posted on 06/26/2013 9:07:21 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: Jeff Chandler; Raebie
I read somewhere that GZ’s back was wet.

That is so racist.

(Just kidding).

That was the description from one of the police officers on scene. Since it was lightly raining, one would presume that he would be 'wet' front, back, side, and top.

One might assume that what the officer meant was that the back of his clothing was soaked, indicating that he had been laying on his back on the water soaked ground.

190 posted on 06/26/2013 9:08:26 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: kristinn

The 7 Eleven video and that deep “hello” when he answered the phone there will turn these two morning witnesses.


191 posted on 06/26/2013 9:09:00 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: P-Marlowe

I feel like I should hear Vinnie Gambino saying “I’m done with this guy.”


192 posted on 06/26/2013 9:09:30 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: kristinn

>> She now says it was Zimmerman on top punching Trayvon.

Well, that would explain the injuries on Zimmerman’s hands, while Martin’s hands were uninjured.

~~oh wait~~


193 posted on 06/26/2013 9:11:38 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Betty Jane

Eggzactly! :^}


194 posted on 06/26/2013 9:13:23 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: Raebie
Yep. Trayvon didn’t have a mark on him that would indicate he’d taken a beating. GZ obviously did.

You've got two guys.

One has obviously had the S@#*! beaten out of him.

The other doesn't have a scratch, except for a single fatal gunshot wound.

Which one do YOU think was yelling for help?

195 posted on 06/26/2013 9:14:31 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: XenaLee
Unless the state can come up with something better than this, they have NO case.

The general rule is that you throw out your best witnesses early and then use the lousy witnesses at the end. Sometimes you save your best witness for last, but since first impressions are the most important, you usually send in the best witness early.

So far the State has not proved any element of the crime. They still haven't established that George Zimmerman was the shooter. All they have is a dead body and a bunch of witnesses who either back up Zimmerman's story (which has not yet been presented) or who have significant credibility issues.

The best witness by far was the Neighborhood Watch lady. She obviously liked Zimmerman and Zimmerman obviously liked her. The Prosecution failed to get anything of value from her. They called her up to establish an evil motive by Zimmerman and it backfired big time. She made Zimmerman look like the most responsible person in that neighborhood.

196 posted on 06/26/2013 9:15:14 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: Uncle Chip

The timing situation isn’t clear herem because her testimony has varied. She’s been unclear at what point she saw the “shadows”. If that was after hearing the shot, what she may have seen is the period when Zimmerman had rolled out from under Martin, and was kneeling over him holding his hands down on the lawn.

Great opportunity to make the jury aware of the disparity regarding the various photos, though. BDLR working hard to keep them ignorant.


197 posted on 06/26/2013 9:15:41 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Uncle Chip
so when she says the Z was bigger she is comparing Z with Trayvon in his football uniform when he was 12.

AND with a photo of Trayvon in his hoodie, which showed only the head area, and not the rest of his body, which would have given a size reference.

Something I have noticed is that several of these 'prized' witnesses for the Prosecution do not have ENGLISH as their FIRST LANGUAGE.

That would indicate, to me, that there could be plenty of discrepancy between what they THOUGHT they were being asked, and what they answered with.

I have a friend who is Hispanic and speaks English, but communicating complex ideas is very difficult, on both sides of the conversation.

198 posted on 06/26/2013 9:16:03 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: XenaLee

>> The lying left is going to try to say that Z broke his own nose and bloodied his own head.

Fortunately the lying left doesn’t get a jury vote.


199 posted on 06/26/2013 9:16:10 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I read somewhere that GZ’s back was wet.


200 posted on 06/26/2013 9:16:32 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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