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Bush advisor: Hastings crash ‘consistent with a car cyberattack’
RT ^ | June 25, 2013

Posted on 06/26/2013 5:56:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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21 posted on 06/26/2013 6:40:48 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Still don’t know why you couldn’t just turn off the key...

I think he cracked and committed suicide.


22 posted on 06/26/2013 6:49:14 PM PDT by Clay Moore ("In politics, stupidity is not a handicap." Napoleon Bonaparte)
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23 posted on 06/26/2013 6:52:47 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I already explained on another thread why this isn’t likely due to the way automotive control systems are designed. Of course FReepers believe any crap science that gets posted, unless it’s global warming. So live in fear of your Benz, if that’s what you believe. THere are infinitely more plausible explanations for this.


24 posted on 06/26/2013 6:56:01 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Have any of you all heard of “Onstar”? If they can GPS your location, turn your vehicle off or SLOW it down, then I’m sure with a little bit twiddling they could hack into a car’s system and have it do what they want. In fact, the Prius stuck accelerator fiasco may have just been practice.


25 posted on 06/26/2013 6:56:48 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Drug abuse is not a victimless crime ... look at what Obama is doing to the country!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hastings sent that email saying “I’m going off the radar for a while.”

At 4am what compass direction was he traveling?

Was he rushing to LAX airport to catch a flight out of town around 6 or 7am?

Didn’t Wikileaks announce “Hastings contacted us the day he died?” Perhaps Hastings was headed to meet them in a foreign city, where he’d be “off the radar.”

The Ostapo could’ve bombed him or droned him in a hurry, since once he’s in the airport, they’d have to poison him or something “subtle.” Chasing him across the USA/Europe is difficult compared to LA.

Plus, the Marxists apparently control the LA Coroner office, since they got away with killing Breitbart AND arsenic-poisoning the damn Coroner Tech (Michael Cormier) who dropped dead within hours of his office releasing the Breitbart autopsy report to the public.

No updates on “arsenic-poisoned Coroner” folks? I guess that’s an everyday event. Won’t see that story on Unsolved Mysteries anytime soon.

Some witness said the Hastings car suddenly fishtailed. They could’ve remotely locked one front wheel (via ABS) while opening the throttle all the way. That would cause a fishtail. Waiting until he was traveling 50 or 60 mph would make a crash likely.

But instead of all this “NSA hacking the engine-management chip” stuff, any jackass could just stick some explosives in the dashboard and then trigger via remote control if Hastings made a move (like calling Wikileaks then rushing toward the airport) that NSA didn’t feel would brush Obama’s magic carpet the right way.


26 posted on 06/26/2013 7:00:15 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: bigbob

My friend in LA dropped a crapload of cash to purchase a 2007 Benz 500 SL.

The brakes failed while driving the curves on Mulholland.

She somehow drove off/up into a runoff area.

1-2 years later, she gets a similar Benz and trades that one in.

Guess what? The brakes on the new (similar) Benz failed in exactly the same way.

I think they’re brake-by-wire (electronic).

I told her to stop buying Benzes.


27 posted on 06/26/2013 7:03:04 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: norwaypinesavage

Easy, bluetooth.


28 posted on 06/26/2013 7:03:07 PM PDT by Deathtomarxists (hillary's cankles smiled at me)
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To: bigbob

My 1984 Benz is an early 70’s design, when computers filled whole rooms.


29 posted on 06/26/2013 7:06:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: Clay Moore
Still don’t know why you couldn’t just turn off the key...

I'm not a hacker but I suspect the key turn-off could be overriden. For example, in my truck with the key turned off, the windows and be rolled up and down, the radio still works, etc. UNTIL I lift the door handle. Then everything goes dead.

If the Benz had the equivalent of OnStar, that could provide access via wireless. We've all heard the OnStar commercials where the doors are unlocked via a wireless command.

Up thread there was some speculation about how the hacker could steer the car. The hacker doesn't need to. Kill the brakes. Turn off the airbag. Invoke maximum acceleration. Who cares where the car goes? The driver is dead on impact with almost anything.

IMHO, doing this wirelessly is the hard way. Much easier to hack the computer to react to some event such as going over x miles per hour. The hack could have been done while the car was in a parking lot or garage.

30 posted on 06/26/2013 7:10:34 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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“Still don’t know why you couldn’t just turn off the key...”

Most luxe cars nowadays have push-button starters. The key fob sits in your pocket and the ignition system senses that it’s in the car.

Hitting that “START” button doesn’t seem like a reliable way to switch off a hacked car.

“Much easier to hack the computer to react to some event such as going over x miles per hour. The hack could have been done while the car was in a parking lot or garage.”

Exactly, just set the throttle to go ballistic “When the car reaches 45mph.” The driver will naturally steer to avoid obstacles as long as possible.... meanwhile the car continues to gain speed under full acceleration....

...until he runs out of road or approaches a turn he can’t make b/c he’s reached 80mph.


31 posted on 06/26/2013 7:14:44 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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The odds of Hastings contacting Wikileaks, saying he’s going “off the radar,” then dying in a fiery car crash on the SAME DAY are extremely remote.

That’s about as likely as Soetoro being a Christian.


32 posted on 06/26/2013 7:16:36 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; a fool in paradise
Hercule Poirot: Hastings, my friend, tell me: to blow up the English Parliament, was it a sin or a noble deed?
33 posted on 06/26/2013 7:20:28 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: LyinLibs

I’ve three so far. All fantastic. No problems. Best safety record and the interior and exterior luxury exquisite.


34 posted on 06/26/2013 7:21:50 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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“At no time was Michael Hastings under investigation by the FBI,” FBI spokeswoman Laura Eimiller said.

That was sure fast.

Compare that to FBI Director Robert Mueller's Congressional testimony regarding the IRS attacks on Conservatives where he seemingly didn't even know his own name five weeks after the fact.

35 posted on 06/26/2013 7:29:46 PM PDT by RJL (There's no greed like the greed of a liberal politician buying votes with your money.)
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< a href="http://www.australiaforeveryone.com.au/world/good_Merc_AClass.htm">Mercedes-Benz A-Class

This article includes description and patent numbers for a system that would move the engine under the floor and pedals. Note that it doesn't describe launching the engine at an unsuspecting public. I can imagine the slip and fall lawyers licking their lips over the possibilities.

36 posted on 06/26/2013 7:30:36 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
She's back?


37 posted on 06/26/2013 7:32:58 PM PDT by CopperTop
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To: Stentor
Mercedes-Benz A-Class
38 posted on 06/26/2013 7:44:36 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: LyinLibs
Hitting that “START” button doesn’t seem like a reliable way to switch off a hacked car.

In the real world of electricity, power systems, and the maintenance thereof, a mechanical disconnection means is necessary with a visible opening that can be manipulated and locked in the open/off position before something is considered "off" or de-energized. That ought to be a must on a vehicle.

I also have a car with a pushbutton start. Suppose it could be hacked by a pro, and I suppose that it could make things a bit dangerous (to say the least). I'm not expecting it, but it ought to be something that car manufacturers are cognizant of.

39 posted on 06/26/2013 7:44:44 PM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: LyinLibs
The odds of Hastings contacting Wikileaks, saying he’s going “off the radar,” then dying in a fiery car crash on the SAME DAY are extremely remote.

Not if the NSA is tracking the calls and internet activity.

40 posted on 06/26/2013 7:46:31 PM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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